Ev saving verses diesel

I am ready to spend €8k for a diesel tap with Diesel Network Infrastructures. Free diesel for 25 years special offer. One car and one electricity generator for the house which I already have. So many offers but can't decide which free diesel tap provider to go with. Stuck with ESB Networks in the meantime - my electricity bill is nil at the moment, any point in switching?

I have been using EVs for over 10 years. From leafs x 2 to vw id3x 2. Total servicing charges in that time = zero. Also no point having an EV if you don't have a home charger so that's a red herring.

The ops figures adding into home kwh usesge makes sense in calculating whether to be on 24hr or day night rate only.

Day night is cheaper in his example. He must then subtract subtract his original unit cost for home and his original standing charge meani g 1459 less 753 less 305. So basically, bill increased by 400 due to changing tariff and charging car for 15000km

Here's posts from the EV forums about people being quoted €300 for a gear oil change only and myself quoted €750 for a whole load of inspecting and little else. The amount of coolant it would take to refill from empty is a bottle and a half, bottles of this coolant cost €52 to buy.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123955534/#Comment_123955534

Just for fun I went looking around a good few main dealers for this service today just to make sure I wasn't hallucinating when I got that quote at the time.

Yeah that's a major service point on a Kona. Battery coolant. Same with gearbox oil. 50-80k These are not a regular minor services. It's like timing belt on an ICE.

You're comparing a major service at a dealer with a minor service at an independent. That's not a valid comparison. Which I suspect you know.

I got similar qoutes from different dealers for the same service on my Ioniq 38. More in some cases, Castlebar and Mullingar were €1000, Tullamore was €630 and Limerick were €500.

They Evs are cheaper to service may not apply to Hyundais anyways, or at least certain models. It's the biggest negative I have about the car. Service required every year or 15K, which ever comes first. The breakdown of the services has been like this for me

• €500
• €100
• €250
• Presumably €100 again

And repeat.

Doing 25K a year I'm basically servicing it twice a year. so an average cost of €475 a year. (a little bit less as I'm not quite needing 2 services a year). You'd do a lot of servicing for ~€500 a year on an ICE car.

Most other EVs do not have the same kind of servicing requirements though, e.g VW are every 2 years/30K, Tesla is no scheduled maintenance

Once my warranty is up, I don't think I would be doing any servicing other than changing the pollen filter myself! So maybe thats when the savings kick in :D

does talking about litres of diesel excite you? Say what you want about driving a nice petrol v an EV but most diesels are horrible drives.

So based on those 'calculations' you're currently living off grid and powering your entire house from your Skoda Octavia 1.6 diesel?

Out of curiosity did you have to modify the car much to power your house with it?

Not too much you can do with the 12V socket but I guess you can get a few kW out of an inverter attached to the stock battery and alternator.

Or perhaps you do have a current electricity supply and associated cost which you've just forgotten to add on to your €1680 diesel cost?

Having switched from Diesel to Electric 2.5 years ago, I can tell you how much I saved. I drive 54,000kms a year.

My Honda Civic did 5.7l/100km. At €1.72 a litre my fuel cost annually was €5,294. Plus 3 services a year (12,000km service intervals) with an average of €240 each.

My Model 3 does 17.2kwh/100km. My night rate unit price is €0.14 (I only charge at night and it is a standard plan so that rate covers 9 hours). My fuel cost annually is €1,277. Now maintenance is a different story. There is no scheduled maintenance but I had 2 service calls. One was standard and it involved a mobile call out, that was €70. The next time I had a front suspension issue, control arms and lateral links had to be replaced and it cost €826 (out of warranty).

Annually I saved around €4000 euro in fuel. In terms of maintenance, it's a little closer because of that suspension issue. But who knows what would have happened if I kept the Diesel, it already had 440,000km when I sold it so items like EGR,DPF and Timing chain could well have cropped up.

I can categorically say an EV is cheaper to run but it's horses for courses. If you have your own driveway, a charger and a good night rate it will work. If you are driving from Malin head to Mizen head in one go and you have a deadline, then it's not for you. Otherwise some planning for really long journeys are required. But to put some context, even in the depths of winter, at motorway speeds ( I mean 120 to 130kph) and with heating on my standard range car will handily do 300km.