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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭green daries


    **** nuts the whole lot of it. You would think it is inter county top teir stuff



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I’m sitting in the car here waiting for their training to finish. Heading for 2 hours now. Supposed to be 6.30 - 7.30 but they’re still drilling them at 8.20.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    You get that kind of crap unfortunately in all sports, I've seen it in underage rugby up through the years, with clubs that had a win at all costs attitude who dogged the kids and now they can just about put out one senior team as the kids all dropped off due to the pressure and were no longer enjoying the game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Ah that's too much on young lads. The only plus is they will sleep tonight for ya !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭green daries




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,990 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I sorted that carry on, oh was ill. I was waiting on child to come out from training that was to be over about an hour before that. I put in the group that if training is from 7 to 8 and is still going at 9 could they not say training is from 7 to 9 as people have other commitments. As an aside my lad was dropped from team for 2 games for attending a memorial mass rather than going training. I had told them why he wouldn't be there. He left soon after...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Football is like that round here, u12s in our club gone back since the second week of January it's madness, at my lad who has another year at U10S to play up but I wouldn't let him. I think it's to try and stop them playing rugby and soccer and make 11 and 12 yr old gossons make a choice. Hurling won't go back until March and the ground hardens up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭Tileman


    that is absolut madness. Around here all the lads play soccer and rugby for winter. Training for u11s will start back on 20th March. Even that is a tad early I think. Hurling is a summer game.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I think its the coaches want to go back themselves more than there being a real need for it in this case.

    Winning will keep lads coming back and that needs proper, structured training. But dogging them will put lads (and their parents) off just as quickly.

    Very hard to find the balance. Thou having U11s out in winter seems more dogging than training.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,509 ✭✭✭naughto


    Iam presume there on astra turf the pitches are in sh1te.We finished up about 2 weeks b4 christmas as we went on a run in the Connaught cup.

    W are back again as we are putting two u13s teams in as the younger lads definitely need the extra training to get up to a good standard,if the younger lads dont play u13 there will be no soccer for them until june as thats when the u12 competition starts it will stand to them when there older but will be a big step up as its full pitch an refs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Austinbrick


    An hour of training is plenty. Even for adults , an hour could get the job done.

    What kills me is being there an hour or 45 mins before a match for underage games. Granted , these could be playoffs or finals.

    And if we arrive at 40 mins instead of 45 , the children think we are late.😀

    A half hour before is more than plenty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Aravo


    +1

    John Gibbons has been mentioned here previously a few times. Getting a lot of air time on Today FM on a Thur with Matt Cooper. This time he had an opponent and that opponent was ready, might even have read a few posts from here.

    Well worth a watch. John might have left a little environmental spill behind him in the studio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    As a coach telling game is at 7 and for all to be there for 630. Some players will arrive at 630 or before, sadly there’s allot will arrive from 650. You need to get a warm up, see who’s there, try to put the best team together and get jerseys on. Then get a bit more ball work before throw in. As a coach you have to understand that kids/parents have stuff going on and maybe the fun (if any) at football could be that much needed break



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,990 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    The first 10 minutes of the hour is spent messing around. Then get boots or whatever on, have a warm up, have a team talk and get jerseys on. Get checked by ref, I don't think it's possible to cram it in to 30 minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,990 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    That's The annoying thing, if kids arrive late they're disrupting the rest of the kids. That's why the 10 minutes at the beginning is important to get the messing out of their system. If they're arriving late it prolongs this. Then focus on the warm-up etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Agreed. Also in allot of cases the late players are better players as parents know their child will start anyway. You’ll have fringe players listening to coaches discuss team selection of the players present for all to be changed at the last minute, which effects the child confidence of the child dropped

    Just to add this is not an attack on parents. Having games at 7pm during the week with a long commute isn’t easy to accommodate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    I thought Michael was going to pull a belt on him near the end of the clip I saw. That's the only was to talk with those lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,761 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Would that be the U11 coach trying to throw shapes and get noticed maybe get coaching a more prestigious team. Feckin horrible message



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,115 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Having U 11 training 4 times a week is crazy. Its easy known its the clubs own astro turf. Not sure when the season starts but but in the. local club the adult teams will not start until March.

    @Siamsa Sessions you obivious have a group of coaches that think they are rian Cody or Jim McGuinness. At thst age twice a week is plenty. Unless you have huge numbers and there is an overlap with some U11 playing with the 12's and some U10's playing 11's.

    U11 trainning was once a week and they fell.in with other appropiate age group for other session. U11 is not even a full competition as its a between age competition.

    Thst coachbis in for so.e shock when they get to 14 and beyond and they discover other hormone driven pursuits than sport

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    No astro at the football club but they have a sand based pitch. So your u12s have only had 6 weeks off? That's less than professional players get? March is plenty of time to head back as even in your scenario that's still 3 months of training before the u12s competition.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,990 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Daughters women's soccer team have been shafted by their club. They've always trained 8 to 9 on a Wednesday. Most of them are working or in college. Club want to change it to 6 to 7 to accommodate the men's team. Load of ****. Loads of them are going to leave despite playing there since u8s.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,509 ✭✭✭naughto


    An hours training on An Monday evening is not to much for them it sure beats them stuck on the Xbox/Netflix.If they are not practicing on there own there wasting there time we have being trying to get this message across to the parents.Dont even get me started on the young kids that are massively overweight who's jerseys can't fit them yet there parents expect them to be the next Messie an want them to be starting an getting full games.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    We are at completely opposite ends of the coaching spectrum. I look at it, that all we need is for the kids to develop their skills, enjoy the training/games and continue playing into their adult years. My job is not to produce Leinster/county players. Kids these days don't go out and pick up a hurl/football/rugby ball your only annoying yourself by thinking that they will and that's 99% the parents fault, when we were smaller if it was dry we were fired outside that's not the case now. Today most kids, if they're not from a farm, the only bit of activity they get is from the local sports team. My main gripe about gaa going back early is that it's trying to stop kids playing other sports where as I see that playing soccer/rugby/basketball as a positive and it will only develop the kids further and when the time comes the child will decide themselves what they want to play. I don't really care what sport my two play as long as they stay playing the only firm rule I have is that they have to stay playing as I see the benefits of it socially, mentally and physically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,704 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    sounds like a coach that thinks he should be running the senior team. I wouldn’t be bringing mine 4 times a week that’s for sure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Austinbrick


    Less is more. Especially on astro. They have been a great alternative but I would hold back on the intensive training on them, where possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Joanna Donnelly really added a lot to that discussion🙄



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Never any harm to spend 5 mins listening to Timmy Ryan, the greatest motivational coach of the modern era:



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