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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    It is all one big long accumulator bet with the individual bets becoming more outlandish as time progresses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    I could have bought wirecard at that time too too and would have thought my super savvy until 2020



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Well yes probably. An extremely concentrated group of extreme money and wealth. Political persuasion doesn't seem to matter when power and ability to wield it comes into play.

    If anything, at this point there's a large level of naivety in thinking there's a real left and right. It's all just mental gymnastics from the ultra wealthy directed by the media which they own wholesale.

    Put them all in groups and have them eat each other. Then they'll ignore what we are up to. Fraud, crime, theft , wealth hoarding, resource hogging. We're all just a bunch of flutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭prosaic


    Sigh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭blackwrx


    You can do the change of ownership online now so this might be easier to transfer it into your name

    https://www.vehicleservices.gov.ie/cvo

    https://www.vehicleservices.gov.ie/cvo



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,121 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Again anyone buying shares of individual companies without a target return level they will get out at are just gambling so I'm sure you'd have been in an out of wirecard savvy as you are, hopefully your vag trade makes sense at some stage but you'll be waiting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    It makes sense every ex dividend date.

    I am waiting for European January Tesla sales data to come in over coming days. Nothing has appeared on eu-evs.com yet but it is still early. I honestly think the next week or two is the last good opportunity to exit Tesla stock holdings as news will only trend more negative from now on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,121 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    What's your annualised return on your investment ?

    I don't hold any Tesla stock so I won't be getting in our out of anything !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Check out dividendmax.com for Dividend information. I use them to find out who pays good dividends as it is a factor in my investment decisions. I am not subject to excessively punitive dividend taxation so Bluechips are more attractive to me than to others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,870 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Stay Free



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Tesla sales drop 88% in Norway and 42% in France in January 2026.

    https://archive.is/o4gXc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Never. I work off fundamentals. Very boring portfolio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    same here, v boring, but it makes Tesla the most fascinating valuation case study - a $1.4tn entity that has hugely evangelical tendencies, and pivots wildly a lot to new and shiny things, without ever delivering revenue on the previous pivots.

    I doubt you’ll see much fluctuations in the SP as the share register has been cleared completely of anyone who was investing in a car manufacturer. Everyone is in for the future, but that p/e is going to have to come down, and down a LOT.

    Edit - As they are winding down the car business, why would people forecast meaningful FSD revenue beyond the next 5-7 years. And FSD subscribers are one of the 2026 great white hopes. It’s revenue is directly correlated with sales of cars with the latest H/W



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Whereelse but U.S. do they have regulatory capture to let unsafe self-driving cars out on to roads so sales outside of US can be disregarded for subscriptions. The Chinese manufacturers want to give FSD away built in for free so subscription model won't work in China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Tesla sales in the Netherlands drops from 927 to 307 in January.

    https://ioplus.nl/en/posts/new-figures-electric-cars-less-popular



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    I think that's it for the company. They are gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    This should not have come as a surprise to management and they should have forewarned of poor presales in the region during the last earnings call. SEC will do nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    Based on these numbers I'm expecting about 400k annual sales. The year is far gone and we are well in the worldwide 261 range period.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Imagine if Ryanair didn't report weak bookings.

    Fiduciary duty, my @rse!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Shares down 3.6% at the moment but naked panic probably won't set in until after Chinese new year which is end of February.

    Any sensible person would shut down Grünheide now but they will wait until China results are announced.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see board members sell shareholdings to the extent that doesn't result in them being front and centre of a perp walk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    If you have your heart set on a Tesla hold out for fire sale prices from stock



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    It's a total mayhem by sound of it.

    You'd have to get your head examined if you bought a Tesla, especially a Y AWD in Marine Blue, and were waiting for it to be shipped from Germany hoping it was made before the factory was shut down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    If demand is dropping so catastrophically then you might find more of those 4680 cells in your model Y. It seems the consensus is that they are worse than the LG cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    Hope my new cylindrical LG battery cells will be better than the budget LG pouch cells MEB uses that are a fire risk and have number of active recalls that VW are trying dodge. The same ones that Jag iPace also have and that also suffer from thermal events. They both seem pretty poor in comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Retail investors are going to be left carrying the bag soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    I am only aware of battery problems on early US built id.4 in the US which should have been dealt with under warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    This might be tldw but it's all there about what VW are trying to hide in Europe compared to US. Pay attention to the "campaign" that is perfomed re. the warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,186 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Kelly will probably be back to derail that one 🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    What have they been building in the last few months with few customers



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