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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,510 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    No they are talking about merging Space X and xAi.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Remember you spent weeks arguing with other Tesla owners that were telling you something was wrong with your car and you had none of it.

    Then you went to Tesla who confirmed, yes something is wrong and fixed it. Sometimes those Bros on the internet are right 😂

    I’m still no fan of FSD, in any car. Yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    it’s one or both apparently - but all just rumours. Why not let space X ipo on its own two feet, rather than infect it beforehand with the madness of X, grok and non-car Tesla.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Have you had your car to a mechanic to get it checked out in the 4 years you’ve owned it at all?

    These are wear and tear items. But still, back to Tesla. They’ll replace them under warranty I think. They really should last longer in general but owners really should be looking at them more regularly.

    Just because there’s no official scheduled service required to maintain warranty, you should still be checking wear and tear items yearly at least. Or pay a mechanic to do a check over every year.

    The brakes should be cleaned and lubed too.

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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NNot true. They told me there was nothing wrong with it. But the.problem was gone when I got it back 😆

    Just give me a link. The more you argue about it without telling how you know this, the less I believe you all.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I’m not giving you a link as I’ve no idea on FSD. Don’t follow it. Just pointing out the last “don’t believe the internet Bros situation”.

    I’d like to retain my PSV licences so FSD or robotaxis are not on my good side 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Disappointed he also failed you on the frunk.. My similar aged Model 3 RWD had NCT during the week, I asked tester if he was familiar with Teslas to which he replied he was, but asked me to stay around in case he had any problems getting into areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,121 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    is it poor to have to replace bushings after 80k (i wouldnt have thought so but i havent had a car with that kind of mileage in a long time)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I can't think of a car I've owned lately where I haven't had to have the bushings front and rear checked and potentially replaced at this kind of mileage 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,451 ✭✭✭KCross


    The Tesla is the only one where I’ve had to get them repaired….. and they were shot at 50-60k km's to be honest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,882 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I usually have older vehicles and bushes are usually replaced at 120k Kms or 140k km. 80k km indicates cheap parts not quality parts tbh



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fair enough. That was a different situation where there was a problem with my car.

    You don't have to show me a link. But if.youre going to be so strong in your argument I'd expect there to be aome sort of.public knowledge out there. The Tesla manual, a press release etc. There is literally nothing I can find that confirms FSD improves the poor performance in bad visibility. I admit, its only really, really poor visibility. But they are conditions I jave to drive in regularly as do many other people. Someone asked how do I see in these conditions. Poorly. And I have a brain with approximately 86 billion neurons.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    +1

    Tesla have admitted this by replacing them under warranty and also by upgrading the actual part which is an indication that they were badly designed in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    The front cameras, that are the most important ones for driving, are backed up by the wipers and headlamps same as you. Very far from your goggle analogy. That may apply to the other cameras but not the front ones.

    As of the quality of the FSD 14 vs the basic autopilot you can check out any youtube videos. The autopilot can't even stay on the Irish motorway without randomly trying to kill you, whereas the FSD can drive on snow covered roads without any markings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,535 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Not looking good for the robotaxis

    Of course Tesla really have to reinstate lidar on their sensors or none of it will ever come to fruition.

    https://www.carscoops.com/2026/01/tesla-robotaxi-crash-rate-redacted-data-austin/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭yermanthere


    There's no " maintenance" of bushings. When they wear out, replace them. So the part is inferior compared with the market unfortunately.

    Great that they can be replaced under warranty. But time, repeat NCT test, more time, more cost is all at the owners expense.

    We'll have to see if this has been sorted in more recent years, with longer lasting suspension parts. But taxi NCT says it hasn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    The crashes that weren’t redacted seem pretty innocuous - it’s easy to say it’s early days, but you’d have expected any version of FSD to avoid these:

    • November 2025: Right turn collision
    • October 2025: Incident at 18 mph
    • September 2025: Hit an animal at 27 mph
    • September 2025: Collision with cyclist
    • September 2025: Rear collision while backing (6 mph)
    • September 2025: Hit a fixed object in parking lot
    • July 2025: Collision with SUV in construction zone
    • July 2025: Hit fixed object, causing minor injury (8 mph)
    • July 2025: Right turn collision with SUV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭JOL1


    What doesn't make sense ..the data is the data. you were querying why when profitability is dropping cash reserves were growing….simply put they make more than they spend each quarter and the numbers are clear. Of course that could change, was merely responding to your confusion about how cash could increase (it has) when profits have reduced (not dissapeared)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Where are they making the money. Margin is way down on cars and there is only so much premium you will pay for powerwall and BESS. Grünheide is well below capacity and China is cutthroat market. I just don't see where the impressive balance sheet is coming from.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Margins are down, but Tesla are still making a profit. $4 billion net profit last year. Thus increasing their cash reserves (when the cash is not going towards capital spending)

    The profit was twice that the year before. And 4 times that the year before that year. So yes the profit has dramatically shrunk.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    To be honest if Tesla become the IBM PC of FSD I expect there to be Compaqs, Dell, Gateway 2000s coming out of China within 18 months along with waymo licensing to all and sundry like MS did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Nobody answered you I think, but yes, they're discontinuing the S and X.

    And nobody but Musk will know the answer to your second question, but after that earnings statement I am 99% confident that Tesla will be exiting the consumer car space in the coming years.

    Robotaxi, Optimus, Cybercab etc are all about automation, AI, and in the commercial space. Same with the Semi Truck, if they ever manage to scale production on that one.

    Other than that, the only part of their business on the rise is storage and services.

    Good article on it here:

    A top Tesla executive said that the company should be viewed more as “transportation as a service” than as an automaker. And Musk repeated his assertion that Tesla didn’t need to make more mass-market vehicles because, in the future, all cars will be autonomous.

    And a bit later, Musk doubled down. “So, you know, I think long-term… the only vehicles that we’ll make will be autonomous vehicles.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    That's all consistent with what Musk has been saying for years. I find it difficult to guess a timeline on it myself. I can't see Tesla stopping making customer cars before 2030. Might as well make the most of the recently refreshed Model Y, by all means a cash cow.

    I guess the litmus test will be to see what way are they going to mass produce the 2 seater robotaxi. If without steering wheel or pedals, the end is nigh…

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    And they’ve announced new Solar PV panels too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Now that bit confuses me. Why on earth would Tesla want to make something as simple and low tech as solar PV panels? Leave that to the Chinese, surely? What is the added value? How could they possible make money on a solar panel that sells for $29 retail? They are cheaper than plywood per square meter now.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Why would you buy a car from a manufacturer who wishes to pivot out of the automotive space within the validity period of a supposed warranty. Tesla better get their media messaging in control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭jlang


    I just hope they spin off the regular car business rather than running it into the ground chasing the robot dream.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    While I would not like to see Tesla exit the market from selling cars to private individuals, I note the their original mission statement was to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy

    I think it has achieved that, at least in the car sphere.

    Their new mission statement is to build a world of amazing abundance

    Building cars for private owners doesn't fit into that statement as much as providing TaaS, or AI and robots.

    I just wish they wouldn't ditch AP and take away the option to buy FSD. All this subscription shíte is really off putting.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭eastie17


    looks like the taxis are junk as well

    Tesla’s nascent robotaxi program is off to a rough start. New NHTSA crash data, combined with Tesla’s new disclosure of robotaxi mileage, reveals Tesla’s autonomous vehicles are crashing at a rate much higher tha human drivers, and that’s with a safety monitor in every car.

    https://electrek.co/2026/01/29/teslas-own-robotaxi-data-confirms-crash-rate-3x-worse-than-humans-even-with-monitor/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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