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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,966 ✭✭✭almostover




  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,282 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,060 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I wouldn't be too concerned. A French squad already in a state of some chassis will be all overcome in a deeper state of Ennui with the Atonio bombshell. All we have to do is keep our heads a bit.

    We're looking like going to Paris with

    9. JGP 10. Prendergast

    11. TOB 12. StuMac 13. Ringrose 14. Stockdale

    15 Frawley

    21. Casey 22. Harry 23. Crowley.

    ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭shimmieandshake


    Having both Byrne and Crowley on the bench is overkill.

    Just pick one, probably Crowley, and go 6/2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Rayray98


    As long as we don’t get anymore injuries I wouldnt be massively concerned.

    The big issue is LH but that’s been minimised due to France also being light in that position, It’s not going to be a situation where our LH is faces Thomas du Toit for Wilco Lou’s for instance, and infact if it’s Montagne hes just as Green as someone such as Milne. Overall I don’t think it would be the winning or losing of the game.

    Keenan being out is big as he’s a brilliant player but his loss wouldn’t cripple us like others would, plus it’s a chance to get more caps into Osborne which will also provide us extra cover at 13 which helps if we are going with a 6/2.

    My biggest fear now is knowing we likely haven’t seen the last of our injuries…the question is who’s the next players to go…

    Post edited by Rayray98 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Rayray98


    Just Casey and Crowley will do.


    6/2 is the way to go, it’s the way we went the last 2 games.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,282 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    You have TOB and Stockers mixed up. Stockdale is 11 and TOB 14

    also, if you have frawley on the field you have 10 covered so no need for H Byrne.

    agree with the above that we go 6/2 with casey and crowley and hope that none of our wings go down, or JGP will have to go out there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,948 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Great to see Postletwaithe in for Aki. He should have been there to begin with but good to have him there now anyway. Just a shame it had to be forced on the coach and he couldn’t make that call from the start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Rayray98




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Snarky Aki.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Knowall1


    With Ireland, England, and France all having prop crises and with the news about Antonio today is it time that some effort was made to depower the scrum . It can't be good for these guys to absorb the massive forces they are asked to. Over half a ton of pressure on your calf and achilles is resulting in most props being constantly injured. Furlong has played a handful of games in the last 2 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Apparently Aki went to confront the ref either outside, or followed them into their dressing room after the game on Saturday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Tin foil hats out in force today i see



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭KaneToad




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,539 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Aki banned for 4 games

    Screenshot_2026-01-28-21-21-29-42_cb2df8437d99d85560b8f74042fc78eb.jpg

    One more than Sexton and Hansen so they're getting tougher on ref abuse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,539 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Was originally six match ban, reduced by two down to the four match ban

    URC statement says that Aki “engaged with the match official team after the game on several occasions”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,359 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    The Aki suspension and Keenan injury just makes it more of a pox that Osborne has been out since November.

    Could have gotten some game time into him at 12 or 15 in preparation for this tournament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Aki didn’t admit the charge and thus denied himself an extra week of mitigation.

    interesting approach.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    That guy is a head the ball of the highest order. Same person that brought that bizarre print out about Sam Prendergast to the Ireland SA game in Autumn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭FtD v2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭Juventu4


    Its something worth looking, at times you'd have players pull up in the captains run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    The officials are doing their best. It genuinely mystifies me how much abuse they get, especially the psychotic stuff about corruption. Is all this seeping in from soccer or what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭moonshy2022


    Social media probably. There are far too many loons in the world and a good bit of that is seeping out on to pitches of all sorts. Players used to have little or no presents online in any form a few years ago, now they are all posting and updating instagram and others regularly. Players are not perfect and can be as naive as anyone else and believe any sort of made up cr@p online. Just look at the cr@p that follows around any South African rugby team, they have an entire army of trolls on social media ready to fake up pictures and videos. It must be a difficult environment for any South African player to be in and not get sucked up in that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,060 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Mange tout Del Boy, mange tout.

    Aki-gate certainly is causing a wild variety of opinions from the learned rugby scribes tonight.

    Rud O'Connor in the Indo describing, more or less, how Aki had it coming, for a years-long record of insolence and insubordination, to both officials and coaches alike within the Irish system.

    Mr Thornley, in the paper of record, crying foul, not just of the preemptive and anticipatory nature of the Union ban ahead of the League disciplinary, but that all of Connacht are entitled to be paranoid at how harshly their men are treated for complaining about how leniently Leinster, in particular, are treated in turn by officials on the pitch for high hits and what not.

    Further, he says it would be bordering on a criminal way to end the international career of "the most popular player in Ireland" should he never be selected again.

    All joking aside, its one of the worst pieces of Thornley's I have ever read, peevish and subjective, barely giving any weight to the grim record of Aki's conduct with officialdom on and off the field, which is well documented and unavoidable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,979 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    It would be a sad way to end his Ireland career. But if someone else steps up and fills the 12 jersey, then that's what should happen.

    As the fella says about retirement: go when people are asking "why" not "when".

    He could have been an unqualified hero if he retired on his own terms.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    He's still a hero, just like Paul O'Connell and everyone else who didn't get a protracted send-off but bowed out after injury, suspension or just not being the best any more.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Thornley has a pretty grim track record of blaming officials for all of his favourite team's woes so not surprised he sympathises with Aki.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,583 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The interpretation of Thornley's article posted earlier is a bit biased.

    It leaves out things like below which was just after saying a sad way to end the career

    "Of course, by the same token, the IRFU has to defend its referees and match officials as well as its players, and there’s a line that the latter cannot cross. The game needs characters, it’s true, but it needs referees even more.

    And on Connacht

    "There has long been a widespread belief among supporters, players, coaches et al in Connacht that they receive an unfair crack of the whip from officialdom".

    Sympathize with Aki he does as you say but he also makes it clear that the suspension is right.



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