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Very high kwh usage for 1 person?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,102 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    dehumidifiers can be big users, what model have you, is there a power reading on the back , e.g 200W



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    This is what I see. I assume I'd need to get a smart meter plan with EI to see details? Or am I able to see the data when I register with ESB? (Apologies, I am genuinely clueless about this.)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I don't do any crazy cooking. I cook in batches, and then use the hob/oven to reheat things, so maybe 15min on the days I don't cook.

    I wasn't suggesting you do crazy cooking, but a faulty element in the oven or the hob could be consuming way more than energy than it would need.

    And in my fathers house bills went up when they should have gone down, and we eventually found out it was the fridge. Only found that out when moving out, everything switched off, and the meter kept on turning. My sister went around one by one turning everything that was staying off.

    How old is the oven, fridge, freezer etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    I use it very rarely, though, and not in the summer. I've only started using it again in the last month when the cold and the rain really started to affect how my clothes dry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    Yeah, I thought if the age of the appliances might be the issue too. They are old, at least the cooker is. Can't find the year of manufacturing, but the model is 'tricity bendix cooker sie233w', to give you an idea.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    I understand that there are issues with the usage and other's have given pretty much all the information that I would have to try and get to the bottom of it as there is clearly something wrong.

    For your own health and comfort I'd suggest turning on the heating even for an hour or 2 a day. Having where you live be between 10-15 degrees is not a good thing at all. Even with a dehumidifier there's going to damp which could lead to mould and other issues down the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    figure out first if it's your meter & if you're getting billed for the correct meter.

    i wouldn't be surprised if it's not actually your meter, if you weren't there for September it doesn't really make sense, unless it's a faulty fridge. either way 400kwh for 1 person apartment is crazy in the warmer months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,470 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    You can access all your smart data here through ESB within mins, you just need your mprn and create an account with your email,

    https://www.esbnetworks.ie/services/manage-my-meter/view-my-smart-meter-usage?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=13801609568&gbraid=0AAAAADg-OV7QimY21OFH-p9WiVhnL2fJB&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4eHLBhCzARIsAJ2NZoKaJAZMIVKIFOdPFouAFnUNvtwRgbi9bxxNBf6-snemLSmwvLdybWMaAv6ZEALw_wcB

    Then take a sample day i.e. yesterday, have a look at the hourly or finer data and see when the peaks are, you'll soon find out of it's your meter or not



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭pjdarcy


    I don't think you need to get a smart meter plan to see your smart meter usage. As the user SteelyDanJalapeno mentions above, you can create an account on esbnetworks.ie using your MPRN number and this should allow you to see your smart meter usage.

    Also, if you are thinking of changing to a smart meter plan, use a comparison website such as bonkers.ie to find the best electricity rates available.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭SodiumCooled


    On the face of it it looks high but if you do a few quick calcs on it it’s not totally mad either. A base load of 300w would be 432kwh in 60 days. The actual base load is lightly a bit lower but add in some water heating, cooking and dehumidifier use it will push up your average usage.

    We are an all electric large family house so while we would not be comparable now an insight might be looking back on last summer before we moved into the house - all that was really running in June and July was the mechanical ventilation system, maybe a few lights in the evening, power to the mobile internet dongle and an odd bit of power by tradesmen charging batteries, boiling an occasional kettle etc (but not everyday and it would be very little overall) and our load 360 kWh for the two months looking at the solar app.

    I’d be surprised with a fridge and freezer running 24/7, lights, heating a bit of water, tv, cooking etc that you would manage to come in under what we were using then.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    I am struggling to see how I can ramp up the same usage as a family household (example my family back home) while being as frugal with electricity as I am, though. Heating water for less than 1h a day, cooking 1-2 times a week, dehumidifier 1x week for 1-2 hours when it's laundry day…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    A small update - I went to the security to check on my meter. it seems to be the correct meter for the apartment - the serial number matches.

    The meter has been changed few months ago, but this kwh usage issue has been there since I moved in 2 years ago, according to my EI stats. So I think the meter itself is not faulty.

    I assume it is something in the apartment that's eating up all the energy then. I will contact my letting agency to send an electrician to check things out. And I need to double check the MPRN number with the agency too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I recently watched a YouTube video from the UK of an electrician who an elderly woman who had called out to investigate something similar. He found that she was being billed for the wrong meter. So it is possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭Escapees


    That's a fair point actually. I would regard an annual usage of less than 3000kWh (edited!) as being modest but that would be without full thrift mode being activated.

    An interesting point is that should it turn out that there was a mixup with the meters at the complex, then who actually is liable to refund the OP and (try to) chase the other tenant/s for money's owed over the years? I don't think it is the ESB or electricity provider, as it's the complex management who presumably mislabelled the meters. And I can't see them paying up...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    It doesn't seem to be a meter mix up. I've just gone to check it out, and the meter matches the serial number I was provided.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Turn off or unplug everything in the apartment, or better again pull down all the trip switches and go look at the meter again to see is it turning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    I did that when i went to check it up - turned everything off at the switchboard. The meter didn't change numbers in the several minutes I was there looking at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Explosive_Cornflake


    Get a reading in the AM.
    Turn everything off at the main switch.
    Wait a few hours.
    Do another reading.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,173 ✭✭✭Sarn


    I’d go with turning everything off for an hour or so and check to see if your usage is zero.

    If you see units being used then the meter and MPRN were misassigned or something else is running off your meter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    I don't have direct access to my meter, I have to go to the apartment security and request the numbers. So it'd be difficult to experiment with usage like that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭SodiumCooled


    Given what you describe your families usage seems exceptionally low are you sure you are comparing correctly e.g. it’s two months usage for the family home and they are reading the bill correctly.

    We used approx 1850kwh in November and December of which approx 600kwh was heating and hot water from the heat pump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    I now have access to my smart meter readings. Here's september ones, the low usages coincides with the days I was away on a holiday, and only the fridge was actively running. Do these look logical otherwise? 8-10kwh per day? I am starting to suspect it might indeed be a problem with the immersion heater.

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    And these are for December - 10-15kwh with no heating on, no christmas light, nothing extra other than probably higher use of the immersion heater so I had hot water to shower with.

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    I am starting to suspect it is the immersion that's causing an issue. I'm looking at how the stats fluctuate, and they are in general lower on the days that I shower at the gym (aka when I'm not turning the immersion on in the evenings).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    Not a chance. You’re using nothing. Sitting in a freezing apartment and using a dehumidifier for an hour or two on washing day is no life. I’d be surprised if it’s any of the appliances either. Our cooker etc is about 12 or 13 years old. Washing machine not new either, nor the dishwasher.
    We have an electric shower going a couple of times a day too.
    If you haven’t already ( I think you did) check the MPRN on your bill and on the meter downstairs. I wonder if you’re paying for two apartments. Maybe see if your MPRN is on another meter too.
    I hope you get it sorted soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    The security guard that took me to my meter told me I can't see the MPRN number on the meter itself, and that I need to ask my agency/landlord. Was he incorrect? :o

    I have sent an email to my agency asking for assistance with all this, and also asked for them to confirm the MPRN number.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭dam099


    What kind of computer do you have, was it switched off when you were away? A gaming rig with a higher end GPU can pull a lot of power especially under load but if not going to sleep etc can also continue to draw quite a lot. If its just a laptop probably not your issue.

    You could buy an energy monitoring smart plug and use it to see how much energy the computer or fridge etc are using.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 HatCat


    I have a good computer, GPU nvidia geforce rtx 3060, but I use it mostly for daily browsing, youtube, etc. The games I occasionally play aren't pushing it to the limit either. It was switched off when I was away, and I have it turned off during the night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭septictank


    4 bed house, gas heating and oven, electric everything else, 3 people living all the time, 2 work from home.

    14 Nov - 14 Jan 620Kwh, €200.

    Heavy usage, people staying over, EL shower few times a day, Air fryer used a lot, Kettle never off, large USA fridge freezer and chest freezer. Never use the immersion, Gas heating and hot water.

    Do you know your EL Rate?? I'm 22.6c.

    Standing charge? I'm €18 a month.

    Your bills are way off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    I’m assuming the meters are all in one cabinet and labelled with the apartment numbers? Maybe photograph the array if you can and see if you can work from there.
    I’d be insisting on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    An immersion heater is really efficient (as in there are almost no losses), but that doesn’t mean it’s cost effective. Electricity is about 3x the cost of kerosene when you consider its gross calorific value. (Unless you are utilising favourable off-peak tariffs)

    A modern oil or gas boiler is 90+% efficient. There will be distribution losses, but much of this is into the thermal envelope of the house.

    If you want to heat a cylinder of hot water, an oil or gas boiler will do it for less than half the cost of an electric immersion heater in most cases.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭phormium


    I wasn't signed up to being able to see your usage but I've just done it! Fascinating info. Anyway my Sept graph other than your days when you weren't there shows very similar usage to you but as per my previous post I live in a 2500sq ft house with far more stuff going on than in yours. I also have an immersion and turn it on most days for water to wash dishes etc however it's one of those economy ones and would only be on for 10 mins or so at a time. I also have the 24/7 radon fan on, while it's not that heavy on power it is on continually which adds up.

    I think you need to start checking appliances if possible.



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