Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

It can be hard to keep up with a lot of the crap that Trump and his supporters spew so I must have missed when Greenland banned U.S. companies from mining there so when did that happen ?

If you are really interested in why they are not mining there, rather than backing a megalomaniac who threatens force and tariffs attempting to get his way, (both now yet another embarrassing TACO), try and do a bit of research as to why.

As far as I can tell, European leaders are in no position to unequivocally break off relations with the US, even under Trump. Too intertwined economically and militarily.

If they were to do this, it would create a sudden economic downturn while massively increasing the need for military spending. This would invariably necessitate redirection of funds from things like infrastructure and social programs that would cause a wipeout of sitting governments across the continent.

In other words it's a delicate situation created from 80 years of sitting under the US's military umbrella, never considering that they might one day go mad.

But in the medium term to long term, the US does need to be told to fk off in a non-explicit way. Follow Mark Carney's advice of creating an alliance of middle powers with more stable democracies. It's not a perfect strategy, since any of these countries can also go mad, and some mad parties are polling very high in places like the UK, France and Germany, but it's still better than hoping the US will return to some state of political equilibrium.

This is just a reprieve. Give it two weeks and he'll either come back to it or have some other stupid idea to attack the EU as a whole or just individual countries.

I hope Europe uses the time wisely. We should quietly weaken the dollar, get the military increase expedited, get some rules in place about a united European force and set about trying to make a home for money and companies that want to exit the US.

Definitely within the rest of his term we'll end up at some kind of dispute and we can't assume the US will ever be a force for good. They've shown for 70years now that they can't be trusted.

Wow CNN really going to town on Trump just now, fact checked his speech in Davos and called out all the lies!

This is a welcome change in reporting on one of the main news channels over there.

This. This 100%.

The Clown almost broke NATO for what he could have got in a normal trade deal.

Art of the Deal, my hole.

Yes, he did. He got more when he addressed the business executives later as well.

I absolutely love the Irish approach to global mayhem.

"Oh yes we must invest in defence to protect our national interests", proceeds to throw pocket change at it.

"We stand by our European neighbours and we unequivocally support their sovereignty" proceeds to buy time without commiting to any action.

This strategy has worked for so long, it's hard to argue with it. The "say nothing until we hear more" strategy. Spend nothing, try not to offend anyone, collect corporate taxes and attract maximum FDI ad infinitum. For how long can we get away with it? Every decade is like winning the lottery.

If the Dems win the white house in 2028, I suspect they will be a considerable effort to send diplomats around the world for damage control and basically to reassure their allies that the adults are back in control. But if I were a diplomat in Europe or Canada, my reply to them would be what if there is a Republican president in 2032? Will America revert back to chaos and bullying? For America to really earn back the status it once had, it needs to prove to the world through multiple presidencies of both Dems and Republicans that Trumpism is firmly in the past. It really is a colossal amount of damage that Trump and his enablers have done to America.

That is no surprise as she has been lying constantly over the last year. She (and other Trump sycophants / supporters) will argue black is white and white is black.

I honestly don't know if it's worth it. We are so far behind, we probably need to be just very strategic with any spending. Like the strategy for invasion has to be immediate surrender followed by years of asymmetric resistance fighting because we certainly cannot defend ourselves conventionally. Perhaps investment in drones, tech, sabotage and an intelligence and covert communication network. We can only be an absolute pain in the arse to occupy. That would be an achievement.

Not a chance he wrote that post btw