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WiFi 7 with EIR or Virgin Media's Wifi 6 for NBI preorder

  • 20-01-2026 10:07AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭


    Live in the middle of nowhere and it look's like my area went live for preorder according to the NBI website and 2Gb seems to be the quickest i can get!

    Best options seem to be:

    EIR €50 a month (with 100 off the first bill) 24 month contract going up €4 each April

    Virgin Media €55 a month (also €100 off) 12 or 24 month contract same price, no mention of €4 increase?

    I've just noticed that the EIR router comes with WiFi 7 not sure if that make any difference, and in the past EIR support wasn't great not sure what it is like at the moment.

    as both plans are roughly the same price is the upgrade to 'WiFi 7' worth it ? is there much difference between providers?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭NotShero


    There shouldn't be a big difference between them. Eir support and their complaints team have been quite good for me recently.

    The WiFi 7 would only really make a difference in speed if you were to use the 6GHz band and you'd need to have the devices to support it. That being said, I'm not exactly sure how both routers WiFi 6 performance stack up to each other but I would say it's similar.

    The max speed you would get over WiFi 6 5GHz would be about 900Mb/s, whereas WiFi 7 6GHz would get you closer to the 2Gb/s but range can be an issue and again you'd have to have the devices to support it.

    You can replace the provider's router with all providers through NBI and connect your own router/mesh to the ONT.

    As you said, there's no April price increase with Virgin so if they do increase prices you'd have the option to switch provider.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Moreilly


    Thanks for that, Just a quick question ! - would broadband performance be the same (i.e. 2Gb eir / 2Gb Virgin Media) regardless of what provider i choose as it would be the same line coming in to the house ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yes for the most part. NBI are connecting you back to the provider's core network (Eir, Virgin Media etc.) so routing and latency can vary a little but there shouldn't be much difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Ah-Watch


    Someone mentioned here in the last few days that Eir will be upgrading NBI 2Gb services to 5Gb soon for the same price. Personally I'd pick Eir over Virgin. I find Eir today different to the Eir most had the misfortune of doing business with a few years back but their customer care has improved massively and their FTTH is excellent to be fair. I did a bit of digging on their website last week and it says if you sign up in March, you won't be charged the increase in that coming year.

    I can't guarantee you it's correct but the T&Cs from Eirs site says the following https://www.eir.ie/annualpriceincrease/
    Customers that re-contract in the month of March will not be subject to the annual price increase until April in the following year (for example, a customer that re-contracts in March 2025 will not be subject to the annual increase until April 2026). 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yes actually @feargantae had mentioned Eir are offering 5Gb through NBI beginning today and anyone currently on 2Gb will be upgraded to 5Gb for free, I assume the 2Gb option will be removed like OpenEir.

    What you have to consider though is do you actually need these speeds as 500Mb/1Gb will likely be more than enough for most people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Moreilly


    Sounds like eir might be the ones to go for ( 5 minutes ago i was thinking Virgin !!!) , as for the speed id rather have it than not if the price is similar, everything is wifi in the house (even the kettle !). Hope to run a NAS drive as well as some large files will be sent to and from it remotely so the speed bump would help with that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Moreilly


    You were correct ! - Ended up going with Virgin yesterday, and guess what……checked the eir website just now and it says 5Gb is now available from them for the same price !, i think that's just how things roll for me !!. I wonder is there any hassle cancelling the virgin order and switching to Eir?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭NotShero


    I don't think there should be an issue. You're well within your 14 day cooling-off period if ordered online or over the phone, 30 days if ordered door-to-door sales.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭Tony H


    I have the wifi 7 router with eir and its a good piece of kit , even without the extender it gives great speeds everywhere in the house , I do have a laptop and phone with wifi 7 and they fly along , in general though its a much better router/modem than the earlier one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Moreilly




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Moreilly


    Cancelled the Virgin one yesterday but i cant seem to sign up to eir yet, i think the line must still be reserved or something by Virgin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭KildareP


    No. The line is the same only until it hits your providers own network.

    Eir exchange almost all of their traffic with the global internet here in Ireland, Virgin do the vast majority in Amsterdam.

    On a good day, you'll probably not notice it - maybe slightly higher pings for Irish based servers as it has to go to Amsterdam and back.

    On a bad day - and there have been plenty in the past - bandwidth heavy sites like streaming media or gaming download sites have been rendered unusable during the evening and weekend peaks for weeks to months on end due to congestion in Amsterdam.

    Several massive threads here on Boards over the years of the various flare-ups where several industry heads pinpointed the exact issue and proved definitively it was within Virgin's network, while Virgin customer service (who were active here at the time) plain denied anything was wrong with their network whatsoever.

    Only recently they were playing silly buggers with the upload speeds, users on here were reporting the sudden but sustained drop that was quite clear they had been deliberately reduced, with customer service outright denying there was an issue.

    Another factor - may not impact you unless you're looking to host something on your own network - is Virgin do not give a publicly routable IPv4, it's shared with others. Only the IPv6 is unique to you. This prevents you being able to port forward anything from outside. It can also trip up some VPN's and some web firewalls (you get prompted with captcha's for unusual network traffic patterns). Eir does give you fully routable IPv4 and IPv6.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    What is the max. upload speed on Eir FTTH 5Gb?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭NotShero


    There is no CGNAT, you are given your own dynamic IPv4 address, with Virgin through NBI or SIRO afaik as it's the same as using a WAS-110, IPv6 is disabled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭NotShero


    It's 250Mb/s on their 5Gb plan, Virgin is 500Mb/s on their 5Gb plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    Thanks. Jesus, they hate giving us upload! I’m in D3 suffering on 40MB/10MB with another year before FTTH will be available! Don’t want to go near Virgin Media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭KildareP


    Interesting, that they give better service off their own network!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Moreilly


    Rang virgin, on hold for ages and they said to contact NBI to get the NBI line number, I emailed NBI and they said this is only generated when the line is installed and there is still a preorder on the line, rang back virgin , on hold for ages again and they didnt seem to know how to remove the preorder and said they are going to ask management (or something to that effect). Its a bit head wrecking !

    In fairness, the speed of NBI's responses to my emails were way quicker than the time virgin had me on hold !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭NotShero




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Moreilly


    Thanks for that, I'll give them until Monday and see what happens, they seem a little lost….!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭dubber


    Why do you say another year, there seems to be some work going on in the area?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    This relates specifically to Clontarf. It’s at the planning stage with work only commencing in Q3 this year. They have been dragging their arse for years on this as it has kept been pushed out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭dubber


    Thanks, there was work going on closer to town 2 months ago or so (fibre in manholes, protective cover on power lines), but nothing since (no kit on poles etc.).



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