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Liverpool FC Premier League Champions 25/26 - Talk /Gossip/Rumours

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Salary is the red line when it comes to moving on transfers that have not worked out, it's probably better to pay more on a lesser salary if the expectation is ever for the player to move to another club



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭mormank


    Wow. Sounds like 200k is the new 100k. I think even 200k p/w is crazy for Guehi tbh. Am I just super out of touch with wages these days cos for me I'd be expecting one of the top 3 defenders in the world or thereabouts for 300k p/w. I haven't watched alot of guehi i'll be honest but I'm not surprised we aren't competing at those figures.

    I can't imagine there are many defenders in the world on more than 300k p/w. Maybe 10 if I had to guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    It might be 'only' £5m more a year on wages at City, but if Liverpool are paying that money to a new signing, then the next recruit will want a similar wage and so on.

    All of a sudden, the floor is raised in terms of wage structure. The £5m extra could actually be £20m extra a year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Think you missed my follow up 😋

    But yeah, 5m extra on one player balloons very quickly once me contracts across the squad get renegotiated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    With all the scouting and recruitment teams, there must be someone available even for a loan, to cover us at CB for 6 months.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    It's probably missed because of the transfer news today, but this is terrible man management by Slot. Maybe it's the Dutch directness.

    "But I still think I have better options to play, but when I was running out of options he's already shown he's good enough to be in and around our players"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭mormank


    This just annoys me more tbh! If he is good enough to be in and around the squad then why not play him and keep Szob in his best position in midfield. I've said it before but Slot's use of his squad is really terrible. It's his worst trait by far imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,027 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Slot can come across as a right **** at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭jones


    Honestly is Slot the worst man manager in the league? Bonkers he'd say this about a young player who's OUR ONLY NATURAL RB FIT AND AVAILABLE right now. Beggars belief.

    I keep hearing about this Dutch straight talking but this is just bad man management IMO. Slot should go back to telling teams how to beat us again while doing nothing to try stop it 🤣.

    I genuinely believe something broke in Slot when psg knocked us out of the champions league last season. It's like he can't get past it and the team and his tactics haven't been the same since (plus he keeps referencing it constantly).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    I think ye are looking for something to slate him about,did ye listen to the interview (I haven't either)or just jump on the bandwagon, either way a bit more backing the management rather than stabbing in the back at every opportunity wouldn't go astray, it's easier on the mental health also....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    I was listening to David Lynch during the week and he was saying that the coaches dont rate Ramsey that much and will look to move him on in the summer.

    Dont know how reliable he is for his info



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,889 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Ramsey couldn't get off a bench last season across 2 loan spells in League 1 and then Scotland. He's a million miles off Premier League levels unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭brevity


    The comments seem cruel and I think he could have phrased it better.

    He doesn’t have a lot of time for players that cannot meet his expectations it seems.

    I wonder does he know this is possibly his last season and is finding it hard to keep his composure when it comes to the press conferences. He does seem fed up most of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    I don’t think it’s correct to say Slot doesn’t trust or doesnt have time for certain players. It’s that his policy is to pick the best players for each game. If a player is fit and ready and Slot thinks he’s the best player for that position, then he plays, and the remainder are benched.

    It’s not personal, he’s just being straight. If we are down to Dom v Ramsay for RB, Slot thinks Dom at RB is the better option, as we still have 3 good midfielders. But if we get one or two more injuries, then Ramsay would become the best option and would play. All Slot was saying was the very obvious. Ramsay has moved up the ladder so is now on the bench, but is not currently the best option to start. Ramsay absolutely knows this, the comment would be zero surprise. People calling it bad man-management are totally over-reacting.

    Personally, i would like to see more rotation, in particular when we have weeks where it is prem-CL-prem, but i think he got the FA Cup selection and subs spot on. It’s not top priority, but we don’t want to throw it away either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,204 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    Must be nice to spend £20m or more on a player out of contract in 6 months. Add in the player will not accept lower wages to sign now instead of 6 months (why should he?) and you already have depth but suffering from injuries at the moment. It takes arrogance of a club that thinks the rules are not for them to be able to do that and then actually do that.

    City did not need Semenyo but signing him makes them marginally better and it makes their competitors worse. They do not need Guehi long term, but signing him now makes them better (as they need bodies) and it makes their competition worse for not being able to sign him.

    After we lost out on Guehi in the summer I was a little gutted, but then it got me thinking if he was a huge loss for us. He is one of three at the back for Palace team flying but they are consistently mid-table. He is only 1.82m tall and when you consider VVD is 1.95m and Konate 1.94m he would have been a lot shorter than who we have at the moment and would that have helped when our problem is balls lumped into the box?

    I still hope we hijack the transfer, but if not we should not see it as the end of the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭riddles


    Slot has played people who are either completely out of form or ineffective in his system tweaks just because he believed they are the better option. It’s the reason he won’t be LFC manager much longer.

    It was clear and obvious a long time ago what he needs to learn LFC doesn’t afford that time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭jones


    I don't agree on the over reacting. I can't see any way in which this is good man management combined with slots lack of squad use since he came in we're getting a very clear picture of how he rates anyone outside the first 11 (with one or two exceptions). Being a squad player at Liverpool doesn't look a great prospect under slot.

    No one is saying Ramsey is the next Cafu but this "straight talking" might not be the best course of action with a young player who's overcome massive injury issues since coming to the club and who we most likely will have to rely on in the coming weeks - unless there's another RB being lined up in the transfer window which doesn't seem likely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    The Anti-Slot sentiment in this thread from a certain cohort reminds me of the FSG out brigade. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a lot of crossover. Every little thing is used as a stick to beat him. It's hilarious.

    I think at the end of this season you can draw some conclusions on his long term future. Flailing one way, then the next, from week to week must be mentally exhausting.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, he has not been helped by the recruitment team. Some of the ire should be directed that way.



  • Administrators Posts: 56,309 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Nobody is flailing one way or the other from week to week, this is more straw man stuff.

    I'm not sure why you would even think this. Do you think the Arsenal and Barnsley results have proven something that would cause people to change their view?

    The jury very much remains out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Lots of subtle digs in your post here... 'certain cohort'. I've been happy with FSG throughout their tenure, they have done wonders. I am definitely Slot out.

    You are pointing fingers yourself, just at the recruitment team instead of the manager. It is the manager who has us playing dreadful football, who is managing the group and it's personalities so poorly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,854 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Nobody is as anti-Slot to the extent you are coming across as a straight out apologist tbf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Here comes the "cohort" to put me in my place!

    I'll judge Slot more conclusively at the end of the season. If he cannot get this team playing in a more coherent manner, be more creative and decisive in the final third, then I think the club should give serious consideration to alternatives.

    Spending the rest of the season nitpicking at throwaway comments about the 5th choice right back and the like, is futile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Supporting the manager despite all we have seen seems to be some sort of badge of honour in the minds of a 'certain cohort'. They are the 'real supporters' of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Turning on a manager 6 months after he's won the league beggars belief in my view. Having a little patience is the bare minimum I'd expect out of any supporter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    'fifth choice right back'.

    Who is first choice, second, third, fourth?

    We have Bradley, unfortunately injured again. We have Frimpong, who has barely played RB, is lightweight, and looks like a winger. We have Gomez who, while a good player, is completely injury prone and is needed as cover for our only 2 senior CBs, and is arguably better suited to CB.

    Everything is rosy with RB is it? Not worth discussing how we have a problem there, and how one of the potential options for that position during an injury (planning) crisis has just been actively talked down by the 'manager'?

    Why cant we discuss these things objectively. There is a word for blind optimism and positivity - naivety.

    You are just ignoring the evidence in front of you while consoling yourself that you are somehow a better class of supporter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    You're constantly trying to project me as a "better class of supporter". That says more about you than me.

    I've no intention arguing with you about who is 5th choice right back, because I don't think you're a rational person.

    Anyone who is Slot out, so soon after he won the league, is not a rational person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Has cohort replaced brigade, and camp? Poor camp never gets a mention anymore 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    My patience ran out at the of end October/ start of November.

    In simple terms, it became apparent to me that Slot rode the wave of what Klopp had put in place (his system, his players), with some small - but admittedly good/ clever - adjustments. E.g. Gravenberch.

    Last season tailed of badly towards the end, once the players ran out of steam, and he simply hasn't got them going again since. Worse, he has moved away from what was a successful system, with the result that one of the best teams in the world is now regularly playing awful, pedestrian football, and quality players look lost. I think his man management skills are probably the biggest problem.

    Putting aside performances... Take another look at our results this season. Woeful.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭adaminho




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