Israel/Palestine Thread

A victory against racism

The Adelaide Writers’ Week, Australia’s largest literary gathering, was canceled on 13 January following the resignation of its director and a mass boycott by writers protesting the removal of Palestinian-Australian author Randa Abdel-Fattah.

The decision came after the festival board disinvited Abdel-Fattah from its program, arguing that her appearance would not be “culturally sensitive” following the 14 December Bondi Beach mass shooting in Sydney that targeted a Jewish Hanukkah gathering and killed 15 people.

Festival organizers said on 13 January that the event could no longer proceed after a wave of withdrawals and resignations made it unviable. 

Expect the same when the US annexes the territory of Denmark.

The UAE are a rogue state.

A leaked document obtained by the EmirateLeaks outlet has revealed an Emirati government proposal to use UAE bases in the Red Sea to provide direct military, intelligence, and logistical support to Israel throughout its war on Gaza. 

The document dates back to October 2023 and is addressed to the Joint Operations Command of the UAE Armed Forces. It was written by Hamdan bin Zayed Al-Nahyan, Representative of the Al-Dhafra Region and Chairman of the UAE Red Crescent Authority.

“With the [7 October] terrorist … attacks on the sister state of Israel, and based on the historic agreement stipulating cooperation between the two countries … and in implementation of the order issued by the UAE Joint Operations Command to support the State of Israel through military bases in the southern Red Sea region – Al-Mokha on Yemen’s western coast, as well as Massawa and Assab in Eritrea and Somalia – swift preparations and readiness were undertaken to provide our military bases in the southern Red Sea, especially in Yemen, with everything necessary to support the State of Israel,” the document starts out by saying. 

The demarcation lines are becoming clearer.

Tensions between "Israel" and China have intensified, as both take steps in a growing technological and security standoff, Reuters reported on Wednesday.

Chinese private vehicles were banned from entering security-sensitive industrial zones in "Israel", amid growing concerns within the country’s security and military establishment that technological systems in these cars could be used to leak sensitive information.

Amid this intensifying cold conflict, Chinese authorities have instructed domestic companies to stop using cybersecurity software produced by around 12 American and Israeli firms, Reuters reported, citing two sources familiar with the matter. These directives were issued in recent days over national security concerns in China.

I suspect Israelis might disagree with your characterisation of them not being at war. The point of my defence of Israel is that things that are done during wartime would indeed be repugnant if being done during peacetime or for no reason. If the objective is to destroy Hamas/Palestinian Islamic Jihad etc, then the onus becomes on them, having started a war with Israel, to surrender.

It doesn't matter what you say Israelis think (and again you ignore many, including Israeli human rights groups, some soldiers etc who are completely against this, and have declared this as a genocide of Gazans), nor does it matter if enemies surrender or not - you can't enact a starvation campaign, blow up hospitals and schools filled with civilians, and destroy all the infrastructure civilians need to live, and call it war. IHL, the bedrock of our civilization, exists particularly for these types of scenarios.

By calling this catastrophe "war" is merely you trying normalize the worst war crimes I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. There is no war that I know comparable to this - I have never seen such asymmetrical death numbers before in war, it is unprecedented. 99% of deaths and casualties have been Gaza ,80% of them civilian (from IDFs own statistics). That alone places Gaza miles outside the norm of conventional warfare, and alongside some of the worst modern mass atrocity cases.

Even now, after the ceasefire, hundreds of Gazan civilians have been murdered. How is this justified? How do you support this?

As to your hypothetical, if Hamas militants got into a hospital in Tel Aviv that would be very bad news, but given that it would be in Israeli territory I'd imagine there would be much wider array of options, both in terms of evacuation and neutralising the militants, than what they have in Gaza.

There are other options in Gaza aswell, such as not committing mass warcrimes by completely destroying every hospital at the same time as starving everyone in an enclave you have complete control of.

And again you didn't address what I asked you, you are dodging.

Logically would you support the IDF bombing a hospital in Tel-Aviv, most likely killing civilians and medical staff inside, to get a militant? If not, why would you support it in Gaza? Why is a Gazans woman or child different to an Israeli, or expect less protection?

We should know from the Kinahan saga exactly what the UAE are like. They are stoking the civil wars in Sudan, Yemen and Libya among other places.

The way only way to win a war is to eliminate the other side completely.

So your solution is full and complete genocide of the Palestinian people?

Honestly that's one of the most callous, disgusting and mind boggling things I've ever read.

Never said the Palestinian people.

I said "the other side" meaning it can be either side (most likely would be Palestine in this scenario but you get the point).

Would other countries support that and defend it assuming it got to that stage? Israel will never accept that unless forced to. Not to mention the hate that will have festered due to Israels actions - would either side be willing to forgive and move on?

Again, “just asking questions”

You are openly and without shame calling for the genocide of a people, not matter what side it is.

It’s beyond deplorable.

At least you understand now I wasn't specifically calling for the destruction of Palestine and am not pro Israel.

Its the logical choice. Take a look at how many conflicts are around the world due to unresolved issues (peace never properly formed, one side being nearly killed only to emerge years later on).

The UAE really do seem to be a problem for the Arab World. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan seem to be developing an alliance to counter UAE and their zionist friends.

https://www.albawaba.com/news/turkey-saudi-arabia-and-pakistan-discuss-1620409

You have no moral compass when you’re calling for the actual genocide of a people.

I’m done with you.