Avoiding Halal slaughter plants

… Damn, I thought it was some rare case, but you are right its not..

So Halal Doesnt work and then resort to another method.. Isnt this just some weird trial.. Now I can see why people have valid objections.

Only so many times you can explain something, but if someone has an agenda then it wont matter how many times you explain it, or how much proof you give, they will push that same agenda and ignore everything else. And judging by the posts that are getting thanked on this thread, its not just 1 "person" pushing this agenda either.

Which beef factories?

If you know where they are, and you want to highlight them so others can boycott them, then why are you not letting everyone know which ones they are?

Just to reiterate for 1 last time, stunning is allowed for Halal meat. So if the intention of this thread is to discuss abattoirs who dont stun animals before killing them, then Halal doesnt come into the discussion. There could be non-Halal abattoirs who also dont stun, day in and day out. An abattoir being "Halal day in and day out" doesnt factor into it at all. If you have an issue with meat being Halal, that might be better off being discussed in the religion forum. But if its to do with the actual process of killing the animal, then Halal doesnt factor into it. Any abattoir, Halal or not, who dont stun the animals first are doing it (not doing it) for other reasons, usually money.

Law also says you arent allowed drive 80 in a 60 zone…

I dont think anyone here can give you the answers that you seem to already have.

Maybe call or email them directly yourself? Ask them which abattoirs are Halal certified then you can just avoid all of them altogether.

https://halalcertification.ie/certifications/halal-certification-of-slaughterhouses-abattoirs/

Farmers concerned about halal slaughter is not a new issue, 30-40 years ago I remember farmers inquiring from factory agents what days and times halal would be the slaughter method and ensuring their cattle were not brought to the factory on those days.

Not the case . The plant I mentioned upthread kills Halal Non Stun all the time . They even confirmed it when I asked some time ago .

Years ago I work in a sheep factory (now closed) Halal used to kill for a few hours a day. Any sheep they killed the front legs would be left straight. In the loading bay we would be straightening out legs of stunned lambs and sending them off on the lorry for them.

That was a small plant specifically in Halal and not doing large numbers and now is closed. Don’t know of any of the large plants killing Halal completely. I bow to your knowledge as to what happens in factories and I only know what happened when I worked on beef and lamb lines in factories over a number of years and have family members still working in a factory to this day.

@Sheep breeder yes it would have been around there alright..

If you have a genuine unbiased reason for posting here please read the attached scientific research.

I have seen both cattle and sheep slaughtered by the halal method and never seen anything illegal about the process, it is possible to slaughter by halal method and stun the animal as well, it is just some people's inflexible thought process that they this is not possible or can not realise that it's possible.

I see that Kosher / Halal slaughter is making headlines in the UK again with appalling cruelty uncovered by animal welfare activists in a cow slaughterhouse in Manchester.
Time for non stun killing to be banned here .