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rsa supporting e-scooters

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  • #1352
    Cabaal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123984380#Comment_123984380

    If traffic moves that slowly I guess Pat should cycle to work.



  • #1353
    MojoMaker
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    Was Pat in his car or on a scooter?



  • #1354
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123933063#Comment_123933063

    Can't wait for Irish doctors to twig the growing burden of cars, vans and trucks on our emergency care system.

    And indeed, our cardiac care system, our diabetes care system, our stroke care system and most other care systems.



  • #1355
    Paddigol
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    Call me a cynic, but… "Highly paid medical consultants who drive everywhere in their very-top-of-the-range Audis, Mercs and Beamers have a view negative view of alternative modes of transport on the road."



  • #1356
    Allinall
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124000961#Comment_124000961

    Yeah. Nothing to do with the horrific injuries they have to deal with on a regualr basis.



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  • #1357
    Macy0161
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    Pretty sure the stats show more horrific injuries from cars and other vehicles than escooters. Don't really here them coming out calling for more enforcement, or more cameras/ anpr to reduce them.



  • #1358
    Cabaal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124001033#Comment_124001033

    But that would be an attack on the hard pressed motorist (them).



  • #1359
    magicbastarder
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124001033#Comment_124001033

    anecdote warning - i know more people injured in scooter incidents in the last two years than i know people injured in car collisions in the previous 10. and i know a lot more car users than e-scooterists.



  • #1360
    Macy0161
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    To the degree mentioned in the report? I suppose I should take the win that it's the first time anywhere close to my age has been bracketed with 20 year olds in a very long time!

    The stats are the stats, but at the same time when I see road behaviour and the impacts on life (lives and life changing injury), escooter usage is way down the list.



  • #1361
    magicbastarder
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    it clearly falls into the 'low volume, high risk' category, while being very visible. kids are now using vehicles capable of faster speeds than mopeds were 20 years ago, with less safety gear and (arguably) more unstable in use.

    it's obvious low hanging fruit.



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  • #1362
    Paddigol
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124000972#Comment_124000972

    Exactly. Nothing to do with it. Bit of cop on from parents. Bit of actual regulation from Govt. when they had the chance. Bit of enforcement of laws by Gardai. That's all that is and was needed to be honest. Not Nanny-State PSA aimed at a cohort who contribute to a tiny fraction of the carnage and chaos that is the roads. There's almost no will at any level of Irish society to tackle road safety, so forgive me for being cynical when the bleeding hearts come out to lecture.



  • #1363
    zell12
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    Garda going on about the gluaiseacht ar na cosáin, the seacáid féiceáilach & soilse absent from riders. An e-scutter sounds about right to describe some n'er do wells that use 'em 😊

    Tá sé molta gan e-scutar a cheannach do ghasúir don Nollaig. Labhair an Garda Eoin Ó Máille faoi na rialacha a bhaineann le he-scutar. https://www.rte.ie/radio/rnag/clips/22561085/



  • #1364
    zell12
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    NT just now. Faulkner said that garda impounded an e-scooter recently capable of 80kph, and another seen on M50 doing 60kph. He went on, bypass the manufacturer-imposed speed limit by pulling out one wire..



  • #1365
    Paddigol
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124058663#Comment_124058663

    It's a pity the likes of him are given so much airtime in the discussions around eScooters and eBikes. There are real issues to be addressed, which should be within a broader framework of making our streets safer and more user-friendly to everyone, but I won't be lectured to by someone in bed with the motor industry. This is Pat Kenny's NewsTalk which broadcasts the opinion that apparently modern cars are incapable of driving at - what was it, 20kmph/ 30kmph through the Phoenix Park.

    Yet those are the views that get all the coverage.



  • #1366
    Cabaal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124058663#Comment_124058663

    I honestly wish the media and Gardai were as obssesed about cars speeding as they are about e-scooters.

    Cars are deadly and anyone can speed in one, even by accident. We put no limits in place even though the tech exists to a) simply not allow a car to go above 120km/hour and b) with newer tech we could easily geo-fence cars so they cannot exceed the posted speed limit in a given area.

    E-scooters speeding is illegal and children should also not use them. But a majority of motorists openly admit to speeding and it doesn't nearly get the coverage it needs to given that for every one death you read about involving a car 10 people are left with life changing injuries.



  • #1367
    Thargor
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124059944#Comment_124059944

    I remember when I lived in Bray a few years ago a bike sharing company wanted to start operations, the council gave them permission but all the bikes had to be fitted with GPS units and certain areas of the seafront and town had to be ringfenced so that the bike couldnt go above a certain speed when in those areas! Could you imagine a county council trying to enforce something like that on cars?



  • #1368
    Del2005
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124059944#Comment_124059944

    The Gardaí didn't impound e-scooters they impounded illegal MPVs, an e-scooter can't exceed 25km/h. If they catch a motorist driving without a licence they impound their car. If a motorist is caught speeding they get penalty points.

    The problem we have is that none of our laws are enforced consistently. Everyday people drive in bus lanes or run red lights while speeding and everyday people are on our roads on illegal MPVs. Every road user breaks the law because they know the chances of getting caught are miniscule. They need to start enforcing all our laws.



  • #1369
    Macy0161
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    Well they seem to be banning them (and legal scooters and pedelecs) by stealth anyway with more and more bans because of overblown (pun half intended) concerns about the batteries.



  • #1370
    Cabaal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124060534#Comment_124060534


    I suspect that the company was Bolt.
    They have the exact same setup in Kilkenny, at one stage when they first started they had certain traffic streets limit to 15km instead of 25km.

    It was not a fun experience when your speed was suddenly reduced when you were in the middle of moving traffic!!



  • #1371
    Cabaal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061351#Comment_124061351


    100%,
    We need avg speed, mobile phone, bus lane and red light cameras throughout the country yesterday!

    I'd also argue that speed cameras and avg speed cameras should be hidden with no signs, this would encourage people in general to drive slower overall in fear of getting caught.

    If we were actually serious about safety though we'd speed limit cars, but we don't because…..apparently some bullsh*t reasons.



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  • #1372
    Thargor
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124063016#Comment_124063016

    My brothers Model 3 has a top speed of 233 km/h, no restrictions, like how is that even possible? Compared to the amount that gets written about escooters and ebikes and even normal bikes speeding.



  • #1373
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    RTE News has a clip at about 40:15 into last night's Six One news on a new scheme in Waterford to provide training to eScooter users, not a bad thing in itself, but largely a distraction from the danger of drivers on the road.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/player/six-one-news-web/2025/1210/


  • #1374
    Cabaal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124063117#Comment_124063117


    I'd be surprised if you can find even one article in any major Irish news source calling for cars to have limited speeds to no more than 120km as a road safety messure.

    You'll find hundreds about scooters and e-motorbikes.



  • #1375
    Cabaal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124063291#Comment_124063291

    Oh its totally a distraction, nothing more.



  • #1376
    Paddigol
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    at it again..,

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/revealed-the-shocking-increase-in-serious-and-fatal-accidents-on-e-scooters/a978203945.html

    Could it be that there was a shocking increase in use of e-scooters over the past 3 years? Might logic conclude that starting from near zero will inevitably lead to an ‘increase’ in all statistics relating to that thing?

    And has anyone notified him of what happens with cars?

    Shocking indeed.



  • #1377
    Seth Brundle
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    Has he really no idea of his brief?

    Currently, the legal top speed of an e-scooter on our roads is 20kmh. However, numerous models that are being openly sold in Ireland can be adjusted up to speeds of 80kmh.

    “Anything that moves at these speeds on our roads and footpaths must come with clear responsibilities,” Mr Moynihan said.

    “If you drive a car or ride a motorbike, insurance and registration are mandatory. The same must apply to e-scooters.

    “I have previously raised the need to introduce measures requiring e-scooter users to have insurance and registration, and I will continue to do so.

    “E-scooter users must understand that these are vehicles, and vehicles come with responsibilities.

    “They should not be exempt from the rules of the road.”

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  • #1378
    magicbastarder
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    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2026/01/10/e-scooter-injuries-compulsory-helmets-and-high-visibility-garb-being-considered-by-coalition/

    .

    ..



  • #1379
    zell12
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124139867#Comment_124139867

    Has this happened anywhere else in EU? Are they having the same debates?



  • #1380
    Paddigol
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124139867#Comment_124139867

    thin end of the wedge.

    None of the reports strike me as being in any way comprehensive. Selective statistics/ reporting and then you have the RSA who couldn’t organise a p!ss up in a brewery.

    Also mention now of moves to make registration and hi viz compulsory for them

    I think we all know what the next calls will be if those changes come in



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  • #1381
    magicbastarder
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    what's to be said for yet another law which won't be policed?



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