Israel/Palestine Thread

There is a plausible case of genocide as you know SeanW and it has been posted several times.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3g9g63jl17o

In January, the ICJ delivered an interim judgement - and one key paragraph from the ruling drew the most attention: “In the Court’s view, the facts and circumstances... are sufficient to conclude that at least some of the rights claimed by South Africa and for which it is seeking protection are plausible.”

This was interpreted by many, including some legal commentators, to mean that the court had concluded that the claim that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza was “plausible”.

the case will probably be held in 2027/28 as I already said.

On your other 'deflective' point I will examine the case if and when it is made. And i have no time for Russia but I will look at any case and judge WHEN it is made.

I don't see any mention of Putin in any of that.

It is about Ukraine's accusation of Genocide against Russia that the ICJ said was not conclusive. It didn't back up anything you accused me of at all. Maybe you didn't read or understand it or you might have been too eager to accuse me of saying something that I never said??

Could you try again.

For its part, the International Criminal Court has been very clear:

International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Russian leaders - Wikipedia

How you get from that to "Russia is not committing genocide" I don't know, and I'm not sure how another page of waffle from you will clarify.

It is relevant - it shows that the accusations against Israel are political. It suggests that "genocide" is more of a cudgel than a genuine concern.

Show me where it says that the ICJ has accused Russia of committing Genocide.

Not much of a cease fire -

"Israeli fire has killed three people in the Gaza Strip since Sunday morning, the Gaza Health Ministry said in a statement, also saying the IDF killed three others on Saturday. According to medics, one person was killed on Sunday in Gaza City's Tuffah neighborhood, on the side of the Yellow Line the IDF doesn't control, and two were killed in Bani Suheila, east of Khan Yunis."

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-11/ty-article-live/.premium/trump-iran-looking-at-freedom-u-s-stands-ready-to-help-protesters/0000019b-ab41-dd87-a1db-fffdef890000#409263903

That's funny, I seem to recall that there was a ceasefire on the 6th of October 2023 … until the de-facto rulers of Gaza decided to take the territory to war …

1. Who said anything about Hiroshima? Nobody is suggesting that Israel should nuke the disputed territories 🤔
2. Do you believe that Hamas were not everywhere in the Gaza strip? Most likely still are?
   https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124138028#Comment_124138028

There weren't any Israelis in Gaza on the 6th of October 2023, and Israel wasn't killing anyone in Gaza on that date either. I wonder what changed?

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5523/Pulling-the-trigger-is-the-first-resort%3A-Palestinians-killed-by-Israeli-army-and-settlers-in-2022

Israel seems to always have been killing Gazans.

You make good points, but on balance, I disagree. Firstly, it's Leftist politics that threatens Jews:
1. In Israel, by siding with the Jihadis.
2. Outside Israel, via its mass-immigration and multiculturalist policies that make attacks on Jews worldwide much more likely.

I disagree with both of these. Also, it should be noted that the only law that really applies in that part of the world is the Law of the Jungle - as it does with other conflicts involving a CRINK power. I'm fairly sure that the Houthis sinking of commercial ships are against "International Law" and Hezbollah's attacks on against Israel starting on 8/Oct/23. All of this being supported by the Iranian regime, alongside Russia's invasion of Ukraine that is also a violation of "International Law." All fuelled by Iranian support and weaponry.

Israel is not responsible for any of this. All of Israel's territorial claims amount to around ~0.4% maybe of the MENA region. The desires of the CRINKs - and their absolute disregard for International Law - are both far larger in scale and should be of much greater concern, especially as their alliance is waging unprovoked war on our continent.

As to the Israel-Hamas conflict not being an "all out war," again, I am not so sure. Israel seems to have decided that Hamas must be destroyed, and I agree with that view. It should be noted that Hamas have not surrendered, and have indicated that they intend to remain armed one can surmise, attack Israel again. You cannot be surprised that Israel is not happy to allow that.