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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    Of course not, you utter moron. It's already illegal, and the action that X has taken will make it easier to find people who try to do it.

    Mod - warned for personal abuse

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Conversations flow, fairly sure you're aware of that.

    You said the following:

    'Instead, everyone is getting their knickers in a twist about what other people are looking at Classic leftwing censorship instincts.'

    Do you think people getting their 'knickers in a twist' about Grok generating child abuse imagery is 'classic leftwing censorship instincts'?

    I am asking you now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    Sorry I'm not indulging your bad faith stupidity on this.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,901 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Sorry what ? There are various forms of untraceable payment methods to get a poxy subscription for this website.

    I notice extremely clearly you didn't reply whatsoever to the article above my previous post.

    Where this functionality was part of his unhinged design , he's tested it, hes removed clothes from people and created his own personal AI porn. The man is sick and anyone jumping to his defence alligns with who he is.

    There's no legitimising this stuff, hitch your trailer to CSAM, revenge porn automation and stealing people's bodily autonomy. Scumbaggery is a mild term for this carry on.

    Limiting it has nothing to do with enforcement.

    Like at all.

    So disingenuous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I want to ban CSA images so I'm pro censorship? Really?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    'Pro censorship leftie', make sure to include the leftwing part it's very important apparently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭George White


    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/09/grok-image-generator-outcry-sexualised-ai-imagery They haven't banned it, they've just monetised it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    That's the nasty thing. You have to subscribe to use that tool. So Musk was making money from it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    As I said already, the post I replied to and the post that poster replied to had nothing to do with child sexual abuse. Nobody has time to reply to every single other post on a thread. I don't anyway.

    So, anyone who asks another poster in that context - "Are you pro CSA (child sexual abuse) material? Do you think tools that generate it should be legal?" is not arguing in good faith. The simplest explanation is that they are using understandable concern about CSAM as part of a wider censorship agenda.

    They don't have to accept untraceable payment methods. Anti money laundering laws already provides them with the ability (if they choose) to know who they are dealing with. As I said above, nobody has the time to reply to all posts. It's you who's being disingenuous, mischaracterising the X move, and that "hitching your trailer to CSAM" slur.

    If you bothered to read my first reply to you you would see I am calling for an end to these non-consensual deepfake images as well as easier enforcement of laws against CSAM. So, you're just playing the same silly bugger game as the other two. Bye now!

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    At least you didn't call him a moron, I guess.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    He's allowing his platform to generate CSAM. That is preventable. This was avoidable. X are not the victim in this scenario and are enabling abusers. Btw stolen card details are still sold online so could easily bypass traceability. Also based on Musk's track record and reduction in safeguards in general on the platform, I'd say it's a big leap to assume they'll report anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Not to mention that once CSAM has been created it's out there, it's done.

    I don't think a parent would particularly care very much that the person who generated CSAM of their child was caught via tracable payment methods or whatever.

    What they probably care most about is that there is now CSAM featuring their child circulating on the internet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    It certainly shouldn't have been allowed to get to this situation. While CSAM can be generated by all kinds of software and other tools, it's so much easier with AI. I don't think anyone is saying X are any kind of victim. That senior people in his safeguarding team are leaving the company is not a good look, and probably means regulation is required, potentially up to banning the generation of this kind of imagery. Musk is saying that the processing cost required to do this filtering is prohibitive, but I don't think that is a persuasive argument in principle. They need to do much more.

    Verification of users through credit card details is still a helpful step towards that goal (rather than "monetisation" as others claim). You might as well argue that stolen credit cards makes the inconvenience imposed by anti-money laundering laws not worthwhile. But, I don't hear people making that argument.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭George White


    O'Donovan's deactivated (but not deleted) his twitter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,416 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "Musk is saying that the processing cost required to do this filtering is prohibitive, but I don't think that is a persuasive argument in principle. They need to do much more."

    Really? The world's richest man who is on track to become a trillionaire and who was responsible for gutting most of the team who moderated such material from appearing on the site at all (even before "Grok" there were times when CSAM was being posted on the site taking advantage of how the moderating teams were greatly reduced), thinks the cost of stopping his AI machine from producing CSAM is "prohibitive"?

    Maybe he could raise money by charging people to watch him stick a serrated knife up his own arsehole. Because I would gladly f*cking contribute. I'll even provide the knife so the world's richest man doesn't have to spend any of his own money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Maybe he could raise money by charging people to watch him stick a serrated knife up his own arsehole. Because I would gladly f*cking contribute

    Well, there is sick fetishes and then there is this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    He apparently doesn't mind his platform being used for CSAM but that one doesn't concern you...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,901 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I think it's the verbal equivalent of sit and swivel on it ....

    Are you really not familiar with hyperbole? Really ?..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,099 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    So, selling people a tool to commit a crime, but it's okay because they can identify the people engaging in it after the fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,416 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "…might be able to identify…"

    Various ways in which people could likely pay using anonymous methods.

    But even then, if someone does pay and then uses the AI to produce CSAM, the company is then literally profiting over the creation of CSAM.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭francois


    Musk simps need their hard drives checked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,375 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I think the horrible thing should be outright banned until this feature is completely removed. We need to stop cowering before Washington and stand up to Musk and the other tech bullies.

    Sadly, I don't see it happening any time soon:

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    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,416 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Nothing fetishising about it. However, "Go f*ck yourself with a rusty steak knife" is often my initial thought when informed of anything Musk does or says.

    The world's richest man saying it's too expensive to stop his AI model from being able to produce CSAM absolutely warrants a "Go f*ck yourself with a rusty steak knife".

    If anything, I was being kind by negating the rust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Sure, but no one, after saying go fk yourself with this specific implement, is glad to actually see it happening and pay for the privilege - that is the fetish part I was referring to. But who am I to judge?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭Cordell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    And I'd say you're avoiding the issue because you've got a hero worship thing about Musk. So even if he is responsible for the creation of CSAM, you'd never say a word about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭corkie


    That is a sensible choice, prevents others (imposters) from taking over the handle. Like what happened recently with Connolly's account. My own account was on protected status for most of the last year.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Right so wanting to see a man inserting a serrated knife up his bum is not weird. Got it, sorry for inconvenience, you can resume your, whatever this is, it's too weird for me.



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