Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

MM. you are WRONG. Yes , there is something VERY NEW here ie ICE . Was it not recently set up - circa 10 years ago. And what is also new about ICE is that The rules ‘governing it/ it’s mandate’ are developing, are being broadened, are increasing day by day and a lot of these are based on what is happening in the ‘field’ and a new ‘regulation ‘ is made to ‘cover’ it legally

The shooting of the Minneapolis woman the other day is a case in point eg

She tried to knock down a federal agent

She rolled over a federal agent who ended up in hospital

She refused to stop when asked

She refused to get out of the car

She interfered with traffic

Shooter acted in self defence

Shooter acted to protect others

Etc, etc, etc, etc.

So ‘clarifications ‘ , etc , ‘will be made to justify an ICE agent behaviour re any of the above

It doesn't reflect well on Machado's judgement that she would offer to hand over her Nobel peace prize to Trump. Big picture here - he allowed the genocide in Gaza to happen and has discredited the ICC. Zero right to any peace prize.

I still don't agree with it. It cheapens the prize and it emboldens a narcissist. It also comes across as desperation to seize power in her country. If she is so easily relieved of her prize, what else would she concede to on behalf of her country. Sometimes you have to stand up to Trump and show a bit of grit. He may need her to truly get stability in Venezuela so she has some leverage now. She needs to get clever now. She doesn't want to simply be another US puppet in Central/South America - that always ends up in disaster.

The farcical FIFA peace award is enough for the clown. He deserves nothing but contempt for the way he treated the innocent civilians in Gaza (ongoing), the UN, the ICC etc etc.

I looked at a number of the videos including the BBC version and to me the car did NOT hit the shooter. What I SAW was the following :-

(1) before she drove forward she first reversed a few feet - probably because there were two individuals dressed in ICE type gear walking in front of her car and walking from right to left and in order to avoid hitting them she reversed a little with the intention of moving forward without hitting them

. (2) the BBC clip clearly shows that the shooter is clear of the car as it moves forward. The contact between the shooter and the car was made by the shooter himself when he PUT OUT HIS HAND to touch the car. If he did not do that the car would not have touched him . He was a foot + clear of the car when it was passing him by

(3) his action of putting out his hand was Probably an involuntary reaction. If one sees something passing close by one’s normal reaction is to put out your hand to ‘protect ‘ yourself in case that something came in contact with you.

What I find perplexing that while all of the above is going on he had the gun ready and cocked if necessary in his right hand and used it within milliseconds of putting out his left hand to touch the car

I am open to correction but the above is my take on the matter

Is she seen now as partly responsible for the US invasion?

I'd love to see how much wealth trump family companies are reeling in since last year, I hear they're making drones now

Not so much. When the US intervene in the politics of Latin America, it usually results in a military dictatorship or some form of authoritarian right wing government. It generally results in instability, reduced civil liberties and falling standards of living.