Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

NYT have done an analysis of the shooting using every angle they could avail of.
It makes it crystal clear that this was a murder.
The video analysis shreds the admin's position completely.

As does the shooters complete disregard of ICE procedures.

The Department of Justice says in its Justice Manual that firearms should not be used simply to disable a moving vehicle. The policy allows deadly force only in limited circumstances, such as when someone in the vehicle is threatening another person with deadly force, or when the vehicle itself is being used in a way that poses an imminent risk and no reasonable alternative exists, including moving out of the vehicle’s path.

I wouldn't have any confidence that the us military would refuse to invade Geenland or even that the Trump administration would not use a loophole to commence the operation without congressional approval. The US military, appears to be concerned on whether the orders are unlawful, rather than they are morally wrong.

The thing that scares me the most about America is that it has entered the post-empirical era. We can all watch the same objective footage and digest the same facts. Yet, facts become a partisan issue. And there is no longer a consensus on what is right or wrong. Everything must be viewed through the lens of the person’s political system. It runs the risk of their society descending into anarchy on when they cannot even agree on black and white footage.

There are a lot of things that we previously thought were never going to happen and here we are… With this administration, all bets are off

Someone should go grabbing at Kirsty Noems door next time she rocks up and when she's been driven away shoot her and claim they were in fear of their lives. Its been deemed a reasonable response.

Mostly I agree. But not in this case, he is himself a murderer who sees only two kinds of people in the world: pro Trump or anti Trump, and anyone not pro Trump he clearly views as scum. There is no fate too bad for people like him.

Given his health issues, he may croak before 2026 ends. Hence the acceleration of his batshit crazy plans in Venezuela, Greenland etc.

If The Gulf of Mexico can become The Gulf of America because...reasons...then clould Greenland be named Epstein Isles? 🤷‍♂️

This part of Mon Mothma's speech from Andor earlier in the year could not be more relevant.

I believe we are in crisis. The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped from our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest.

Ice murderer has been identified, let's hope people make his life hell from here on in and that he some day faces a long prison term:

Minnesota officials say the Feds are blocking state police from accessing the case files in the ICE shooting.

Cover up.

The first comment on one of their reports on the Anthony Joshua car accident last week read. "Good, that's two less Africans in the world."

I think most of the more deranged comments on there, are from people working for The Mail itself. Just stirring the pot and rage baiting. Better off staying well clear of it.

My apologies. I went back and saw instantly what you meant. I misunderstood the meaning of your post connected to the rule of not shooting at a moving car as it would be a loose cannon ball then.

Trump pulls out of 66 global bodies.

One line in Trump's statement today about the GOP Senators who sided against him in the War Powers vote telling the GOP voters not to vote for them again reads loud and clear that he knows he's lost some compatriots and is likely to lose more when those same Senators start talking in ones and twos to other GOP Senators to change their position. Trump is running scared of his measures and plans being voted against more often in the Senate and eventually losing their confidence in his ability to get things done. The "lame duck president" title is getting to him.