Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Sadly, if the ICE agent is ever held accountable and convicted, I have no doubt the orange russian agent will pardon him.

Harris had plenty of time to get her message right- the fact that she couldn’t hold a coherent conversation is why she lost- she came out with bullsh1t word salads each and every time and her only policies were Bidens -she was not a likeable candidate - completely uninspiring - American democrats made the decision that they’d prefer not to vote than vote for her - so either stayed away where it counted or swung to Trump - she was appalling and if she goes again will lose again

You're openly calling/hoping for civil war in America?

It really feels like the sooner the second American Civil War starts, the better. At least if they're busy fighting each other for a couple of years, they'll be too busy to do anything more than collateral economic damage to the rest of the world.

There will be no civil war in America! The US has a serious political divide and polarization. In many ways this has always been normal, intensified in recent years thanks to the internet. Suggesting civil war is dramatic and not supported by credible evidence.

Should I care that it'll cost thousands of American lives? Yes. Do I? Not really any more. America has fallen, it's a failed state run by a mafia boss who poses a clear and present danger to the western world. I probably have more sympathy the Russians Putin is feeding into the meat grinder in Ukraine at this stage: at least they can credibly claim not to have voted for their dictator and to have been tricked or forced into taking part.

America still has fully functioning institutions, courts, Law enforcement, military schools ETC and a stable currency… Calling it a failed state is just emotional hyperbole.

The next few months are depressingly predictable: Trump is going to keep causing chaos to distract his followers from the Epstein files, the political establishment in the USA will continue to be too cowardly to stop him (see reports that Republican congressmen are in fear of thier lives if they vote against his dictats), the military will continue to follow his orders whether they're legal or otherwise, Greenland will be attacked so that Trump can get his way about extracting the US from NATO without needing to get the approval of congress.

Conspiratorial thinking is all.

The EU and wider Europe are going to have to get it's **** together very quickly: create mechanisms to remove or bypass the likes of Orban and get real about Ukraine. It's long past the point where there should be boots on the ground and planes in the sky. We need to end Russia's capability to continue the imperial dreams of it's mafia tzar. We have more than enough firepower to do so, and enough nuclear deterrance to counter Putin's nuclear arsenal (after all, you only need 2 nukes to destroy Russia: one for Moscow, one for St Petersburg). If the Russian Federation collapses when it's been driven out of Ukraine's land and civil war breaks out amongst the warlords that emerge, all the better: again, if they're too busy fighting themselves, the civilised world is free to get on with life and strengthen ourselves to deal with the all too real possibility of an attack from the US.

"Trump is a Nazi fascist. Oh and I don't like that Viktor Orbán so lets remove him"

" After that lets go to war with the tzar who has nuclear weapons! (after all, you only need 2 nukes to destroy Russia: one for Moscow, one for St Petersburg) Just the 2, and a few million innocent people dead, but look they live in Putin's Russia, so probably deserved it.

Oh and trump is a fascist Nazi who could destroy the world"

It sounds far fetched but can you really rule out a US invasion of Ireland at this stage? They're marching to the rantings of a senile narcissist who has quite literally become a nazi because he took offense to a harmless joke at a white house press dinner. If Europe were at war with Russia, what's to say Donald wouldn't send in the troops on the other side? Whether's he's actually a KGB agent dancing to Putin's orders or not, it doesn't really matter at this stage: virtually everything he's done in his second term has been in their favour. Seizing a Russian shadow fleet tanker and kidnapping the Venezualan president is nothing more than theatre, a distraction from the fact he's already killing political opponents and civilians while destroying the institutions that were supposed to safeguard American democracy.

I'm done, Trump will invade Ireland…. I'm just done

That post is NOT a reliable assessment of reality.

I think I'm done with the internet for a month after reading that.

I'm not saying that Donald Trump would hit Portland, Oregon with a nuclear weapon, but he would gleefully rattle that sabre against that place and every other city deemed 'liberal' in this hypothetical civil war.

It's an interesting thought experiment as to how a second American civil war might go, but it's such a different world from 1860, I don't think it's really a logistical possibility. It's not as if all the big weapons are evenly distributed across the states to where if blue states seceded, they'd automatically have control of half of it. States with the armament factories and air bases would be at a big advantage, possibly, but then there's also the interconnectedness needed to run all that. If national supply chains and cooperation break down, perhaps those advantages are moot.

But there are still the nukes, and those are designed to be used even in a chaotic situation.

Unprecedented civil unrest? Possibly, but that's not the same thing as a civil war.

Amazingly rebuttal there Grok. Your Nazi supporting creator would be proud.

Most people on here would agree the Dems did make a hames of the campaign. There is no Emperors New Clothes in here.

I personally put a lot of blame on Jill Biden.

That said, the electorate themselves have a lot to answer for too. I hope some of them are doing some self reflection right around now. Was voting for a black woman really a bridge too far?

Dirty rotton scumbag in orange.

Thats all he is.

I hope he dies from a massive heart attack, roaring in pain. **** him.

Scaremongering at its finest.

Trump is bad- Harris was bad (for different reasons) - the two statements can hold true

If the ICE murderer gets equitted there could well be outrage that would make the George Floyd riots look tame.

That's if he even gets charged.

Noem is labelling the victim of the shooting a domestic terrorist for using her vehicle as a weapon to target law enforcement.

Wait until she hears that Trump has pardoned the largest number of domestic terrorists ever, who had attacked the police on Jan 6th. She will be appalled when she finds out.

So Trump is now an open supporter of domestic terrorism?

This death lies at the hands of Trump. He not only told everyone that attacking the state was perfectly acceptable to protect their country. For if, for a second, we take the view of Noem and the MAGA supporters that the victim got what she deserved for attacking the ICE agent, how do they square the circle that their leader feels that attacking law enforcement is not only okay but something that should be applauded and rewarded? So in reality, the victim of this shooting should be held up as a hero by MAGA.

Just saw the video after reading the Trump administration claims that she was a "domestic terrorist" and tried to run over the ICE guy.

That's not what happened. She tried to drive off but made no attempt to run anyone over.

Most administrations would at least pay lip service to "let's wait for the facts" but not Trump. It's all about the narrative. A f**king dangerous embarrassment to that country and what they purport to stand for.