Las Vegas Raiders Thread

He means that he lost what made him successful in Seattle originally- a HOF defense regressed to one of the worst in the league and offense underperformed. Compare the last few years defense of Seahawks under Carroll to what McDonald did in his first year there

I maintain Carroll came to Las Vegas to win straight away, he wanted to contend and everything points toward that despite what you have said in this thread. The absolute malfunction of the organisation where Carroll was hired before the GM Syptek where it clear now they were never on same page is also true.

A long read but a good insight into the sh*tshow of a season they had, wouldn't inspire you with confidence on TB's ownership input either

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47517128/las-vegas-raiders-2025-collapse-mark-davis-tom-brady-pete-carroll-geno-smith-dysfunction

Well done on your obviously enthusiastic following of Seattle's season. I stated in my post that I had spoken to Seahawks fans who had given their opinion to me. I also have stated that I didnt have a problem with Carroll and that the Raiders as an organisation were dysfunctional. But he made mistakes this season, and I feel the Raiders have done the right thing moving on from him. Your posts seem to indicate that you dont blame Carroll at all for our record this year, that its the organisation, not the Coach that is at fault. You are entitled to your opinion but I differ slightly in that I feel that its a combination of a number of factors that have us at the number 1 pick in the draft. And I do feel that Carroll is not blame free for our current situation.

Is there any point even trying to have a discussion with someone like eagle eye, moves goalposts at every avenue in a discussion, has done it about 3 times in the last day in this thread. I can't see anyone fully blaming Carroll for Raiders current situatuon, it is the organisation's fault but it was definitely the right decision to move on for him apart from eagle eye who thinks he came in at 74 to do a rebuild rather be a big name coach to compete in a division with Reid, Harbaugh and Payton and win straight away. No one is saying the decision to move on from him is wrong after what occurred there in the last year and Carroll is still rightfully a HOF coach but he failed badly at what he set out to do in LV.

Moving on, Brian Flores is evens at most sportsbook to be the next HC followed by Jesse Minter, Stefanski and Klint Kubiak. Can't see them hiring Minter as first time HC especially when you picking a QB with the no1 pick unless he has some strong experienced OC to come in with him. Kubiak is interesting with his background and outside zone running scheme to part with Jeanty and has been excellent at scheming Smith Nijba open- still risky as first time HC imo, would probably go with Stefanski but can see him going to the Falcons easy enough too depending on where John Harbaugh lands.

The ESPN article highlights what an absolute shambles things were for the Raiders this year and Carroll played a big part in it especially with respect to the offensive line. Who ever heard of the O Line meeting by themselves to try to figure things out! He had a weird set against Powers Johnston for example, preferring Cappa even though he was awful, and in general only started playing the rookies very late and then they looked pretty good. He can't have any complaints, he is (or was) a great coach but this season, and in particular the Brennan fiasco when he fired others was just unforgivable.

A shame to see his legacy somewhat tarnished but there was zero reason to let him remain and tarnish it further.

Thanks for your prediction. I didnt ask for it but you seem to keep wanting to push the point over and over. So yes, I get it. We're a terrible Franchise for sacking the great Pete Carroll. Guess we have to live with the consequences of that decision. I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep, given that the great Pete Carroll was going to save us. Whatever will we do??? I really do appreciate when Patriots fans remind us of how terrible we are. Was this the same team that walked into Foxboro week 1 and came away with a victory??? Point of correction, though. We're not just the laughing stock of the League now. We've been that way for years. Again, thanks for the really helpful and encouraging observations.

I would definitely agree that the wrong place wrong time holds true. Geno Smith and Sam Darnold have shown that with a good setup around them , they can be Top 10 QBs - just not the Jets or Raiders :).

I watched the Peach Bowl match up between Oregon and Indiana and while Dante Moore has potential I think Fernando Mendoza is more NFL ready and should be the pick if we go QB in the draft - I wouldn't be shocked if Dante Moore stays another year with Oregon and goes again for a National Championship - he's only 20 and needs gametime to develop.

Even with that I would hope that we can let whoever it is sit and learn and focus free agency and remaining draft on getting better O-line performance and some help on secondary. Watching Justin Herbert get killed behind that makeshift Charger line shows just how hard it is to get anything done offensively when you are running for your life.

As you say Kev, it wont matter who is taking snaps if the O-line is not seriously upgraded during the off-season.

I saw it and crucially so did the Raiders Front Office as Spytek and Mark Davis were both in attendance.

Klint Kubiak is due to have a second interview this weekend. Obviously we cant hire him until after the Superbowl and the longer this goes on, the more it would appear that Kubiak is first choice. MacDaniel and Daboll have apparently signed on as Co-ordinators with their teams, so unless an offer is made to Davis Webb, Kubiak will be offered the job. The likelihood of another candidate coming out of the woodwork is extremely low. But we've had offers rejected in the past and so nothing is a shoo-in at this stage.

very true - you can only go so far without the players on the field - if we can build the squad with a consistent strategy over the next 3 to 4 years he has a chance to be successful. Its still all speculation at this point though he may decide to stay in Seattle depending on how the Superbowl goes