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Switching to power showers from electric shower

  • 04-01-2026 10:08PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭


    Hi. Was wondering could someone advise me a bit on my shower plans. Existing set up is an electric shower in ensuite which i intend on keeping as a back up. I installed solar panels and wish to utilize the hot water in cylinder by installing two power showers, one in the ensuite where the electric shower is and one in recently done up bathroom which is room next door. Obviously a 1/2 cold feed from the raised cold tank in attic and was going to use a s flange for top of hot cylinder as hot feed. My question is can i split these feeds near the shower rooms to supply both showers if only one shower would be used at any one time. Thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 232 ✭✭steamdave


    I've just moved into a house with an electric shower. It's carp! The hot press is next door so will change for a low pressure power shower. Thinking of a Mira Event XS Dual. Cold feed from attic tank and hot water from close by cylinder. Best solution I can come up with without a major remodel of the en suite.

    As for your question about splitting the feeds, without any professional knowledge, I would say you could. Perhaps have a larger diameter pipe twixt tanks and tee off just in case there is an occasion both showers are used at the same time.

    Dave



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭pelliven


    Thanks dave for the quick response. A bit baffled by it all after diving into it. Had bought a pumped power shower originally thinking one would suffice but decided now i need two as the girls are getting older. Was thinking also of a salander type pump and two thermostatic shower heads but already have one power shower bought and just exploring whether two could be fitted and save on the costs a bit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    What size is the cylinder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭pelliven


    Looks to be a 30 ×18 cylinder so 96/98 litres



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭ImTiredOfItAll


    The definition of a Power shower in that it puts out at least 10LPM. Because of this there is no such thing as a low pressure power shower.

    There are better options than the Mira Event XS Dual. This has old style noisy motor. It also comes with cheap plastic hoses. Mira parts are expensive making this shower expensive to repair. Mira themselves have so little confidence in this shower that they only offer a 12 month warranty. All other power showers on sale in Ireland have at least 24 months. Some have 5 years.

    The Triton Novel SR is a silent running power shower. Far better quality than the Mira. It comes with Chrome hose & 24 months warranty. It has 3 parts inside it so very little can go wrong with it. A Mira Event XS replacement thermostatic cartridge is €250 pluss shipping. Thermostatic cartridge for the novel is €65 plus shipping

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    Triton also do a dual head that works very well with the Novel SR

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    Triton Novel SR & the dual kit are only around €460 for both. Mira Event XS Dual is close to €700

    There isn't any issue splitting 3/4 inch hot feed to feed two showers (run the 3/4 inch as close to the shower as possible. There isn't a problem running both power showers at the some time even. Tank size is the big issue here.

    It's worth getting away from the belief that the hot water is free. You could sell the energy back to the grid rather than use it for water. This put's a value on the hot water. Last time I looked you could get 15 cent selling electricity. This means the "free" hot water costs 15 cent per unit. You could still be far cheaper using the electric shower. It uses far less water. A 10 minute shower electric shower is still cheaper than a 10 minute power shower using "free" hot water. I prefer the power shower myself. Just pointing out what so many miss, it's not "free" hot water



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    Only about 10 minutes shower duration from that. Power showers drink hot water!
    Ideally you need a cylinder at least twice that size (or more if you want to be able to utilise excess PV over a long period.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 232 ✭✭steamdave


    Thanks for your suggestions about Triton showers. I'd only previously thought of Mira so it shows the power of advertising!

    Dave



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭John.G


    I helped a neighbour in the install of the previous model to the Novel SR, the Triton AS 2000 XT, about 10/12 years ago or so, excellent shower with up to 14LPM flow but I think he instlled a flow restrictor in his to limit the flowrate to ~ 7.5LPM, your say 95L HW cylinder will give the equivalent of 95*(60-7)/(40-7), 153L, when cold water at a present 7C is mixed with HW at 60C or 167L if the cylinder is heated to 65C, to give 20/ 22 minutes showering time at 7.5LPM. Any 9kW electric shower will only flow, 9.0*860/60/(40-7), 3.91LPM under the same conditions. (The "SR" stands for silent running (motor) in the Novel)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,108 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    why not just put a pump in the hot press?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,108 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    It’s a tidier job and you’ll have much nicer looking showers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    I don’t know about tidier. It is another option all right. It’s certainly not going to be any cheaper or involve less work, which is what I thought you were suggesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭ImTiredOfItAll


    The best power shower is a bar mixer with dual head (rain head) & and dedicated 3 bar monsoon pump imo.

    This is what I would recommend for a bathroom remodel or if re-tiling the shower.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,108 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    that’s what I got during the summer

    we were getting a new heating system. So got them to fit a 3 bar pump.( sitting On a pad) acoustic Feeding 2 T Bar rain head (+ extra hose head) showers. One in chrome and the other in brushed gold.



    its a great job. Really quiet pump., great pressure. I also only have the showers off the pump. Reduces the splash back when you use the sink.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    Sure, it gives you lots of options in terms of aesthetics in the context of a new bathroom fit out.

    But you are into bigger expense, and in most cases there isn’t an appreciable increase in performance vs what is achieved with Triton Novel SR for example, which delivers 14L per minute.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,108 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    The flow rate of a 3 bar pump is pretty good.( I might measure it later, see how long it takes to fill a 5l bucket)
    14l/min would empty the Ops cylinder in 7 minutes or 3.5 minutes if 2 showers are going 😂😂 That’s not really ideal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    3Bar is the max pressure cut off on the pump, it doesn’t tell you about the flow rate - but yes ultimately the sky is the limit with a suitable pump and mixer bar. Many of the mira units have max flows of 24L/min at 5 bar feed. At 3 bar that will be about 16-18 L/min.

    Where are you getting 7 minutes from? It should be approx 10-11. The cylinder is really too small for any comfort.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,108 ✭✭✭✭ted1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    That’s 98 litres at 60 degrees.

    When you mix with cold to bring it down to 40 degrees, it’s about 11 minutes typically.

    That’s with the shower on full tilt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 232 ✭✭steamdave


    In my case, I will be replacing a Mira electric shower. The tiling is good and I don't want to have to re-tile even one wall. That was why I was thinking initially of the Mira Event, but following up research on the Triton Novel XS after the suggestion on here, the Triton box will cover the holes where the Mira was screwed to the wall. Running the hot water pipe down will be a simple job with the hot press next door.

    Dave



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