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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

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  • #11972
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124113838#Comment_124113838

    What am I reading. I didn't know about his promises to cure autism. No harm trying but I doubt it.

    I've never fawned over him but I'll call out the left wing propaganda that tried to portray him as Hitler after this. You can doubt what he has but it's clear as day he has something that makes him socially awkward. It wouldn't take an expert to conclude that from his body language.

    This whole Elon is a saluting nazi campaign has proven to be a complete red herring and an absolute waste of time and energy for those who jumped on the bandwagon.



  • #11973
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,416 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124113722#Comment_124113722

    Difference with Musk has nothing to do with autism, but his repeated shows of support for the far right including re-platforming them on Twitter, sharing many similar ideals, and there are of course differences in the movements of those 4 clips where Musk's is closer to a Nazi salute.

    With Musk, there are clear differences which can be read into his intent. Nothing to do with autism.

    People who use his aspergers/autism to defend his actions never seem to acknowledge that his aspergers/autism doesn't and hasn't prevented him from becoming the richest man in the world and therefore is not so inhibitory as to cause him to be out of control, either with regards body language or speech.



  • #11974
    For Petes Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    There's a poster who seems to want to link any bad behaviour to autism as a means to excuse it and it's quite frankly disgusting tbh.



  • #11975
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124113931#Comment_124113931

    Like I don't think he was doing a nazi salute that's it. People respond by going into all sorts of tangents about him which have no relevance to what I've said. It's like the red mist descends because I don't keep the echo chamber going.



  • #11976
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,102 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Did his autism cause him to accidentally give a speech to the AfD?



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  • #11977
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭threeball


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124113988#Comment_124113988

    Everything he does confirms his Nazi tendencies including his support for Reform UK and the AFD. Hes a plague on humanity. And he'll be bringing his Nazi bandwagon to a town near you in the not too distant future.



  • #11978
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod - @For Petes Sake and @RoyalCelt, please keep it civil.

    @RoyalCelt, you need to stop implying other posters are autistic, this is your one and only heads up.

    ETA 2 posts deleted.

    https://forumofgames.com/



  • #11979
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭corkie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124111604#Comment_124111604
    image.png

    Spotted a continuation on that tonight. Where the request is to convert engagement thread pictures to ones with bikinis'. Even been done to hilarious effect on carton villains.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • #11980
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The "consequences" being that your disposable account gets temporarily limited, and you can just create a new one.

    And no, absolutely nothing Grok has every produced is 'hilarious', particularly when it involves the issue that XAI has created a tool that generates CSAM on demand.

    Under a sane regime, Musk would now be facing an exceptionally long prison sentence for operating a system that has created CSAM. Computer generated, hand animated or drawn CSAM is treated as harshly as photographic in nearly every sane country in the world. Including the US; but the US justice system isn't operating currently.



  • #11981
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124114009#Comment_124114009

    So reform UK the most popular party is a nazi party now? 80 years after the Brits defeated the Nazi's who us Irish were a lot more sympathetic to, they've become Nazis themselves? This is just ridiculous now.

    Like Musk could well be a Nazi (I don't know) but to suggest reform is a party of Nazis is insane.

    I'll tell you what doesn't confirm it though and it's that salute. As you can see lot's of leaders do it. I've also pointed out his place on the spectrum explains why he's so awkward doing it compared to the others who have a much cooler demeanor regarding body language. (Never once suggested the spectrum explains or justifies his actions good or bad). Blatant misinterpretation there!



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  • #11982
    Sudden Valley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    You really do your arguments no good if you try to argue we were sympathetic to the nazis. i notice how you fail to mention his support for the AFD, should that be blamed on his Asperger's too?

    I think his support for Tommy Robinson is more problematic than anything he has done for reform but really why are we applauding a man who gets involved in other countries politics? When Soros was doing the same he was rightly condemned.



  • #11983
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124115458#Comment_124115458

    Misquoted again. I said we were more sympathetic to the Nazis compared to the Brits. Which we were otherwise we'd have declared war on them with the allies. I never mentioned Tommy who is very pro Israeli. Again weird calling him a nazi considering they weren't great pals with the Jews. Anyway I mentioned reform and to suggest they are a nazi party is frankly absurd.

    Wasn't our ruling party Fine Gael setup by literal fascists? Which again would kinda lean into how we were more sympathetic in this country to fascism then we should have.



  • #11984
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Okay, now we've moved onto defending Tommy Robinson who is a grifting racist scumbag…



  • #11985
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,533 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Some people should refrain from talking about a history they clearly know nothing about.



  • #11986
    Sudden Valley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124115576#Comment_124115576

    Something Elon is often guilty of too.



  • #11987
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124115575#Comment_124115575

    I don't think calling him a Pal of the Zionists is defending him! I think I'll rest my case when the response to the Elon salute has shifted to reform and Tommy being Nazis.



  • #11988
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124116197#Comment_124116197

    Never called Robinson a Nazi, he's a far right racist who is known for harassing teenagers.



  • #11989
    Glaceon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I don’t believe that he’s really autistic, he was never diagnosed so just self-identifies. I can understand someone self-identifying for financial reasons or difficulty accessing supports, but neither of these apply to Musk. He’s well able to get diagnosed but hasn’t.



  • #11990
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124116219#Comment_124116219

    Yeah another poster did. Glad you agree with me on that.



  • #11991
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124115488#Comment_124115488

    I said we were more sympathetic to the Nazis compared to the Brits. Which we were otherwise we'd have declared war on them with the allies.

    Utter ahistorical nonsense. Ireland declared itself a neutral country when the Irish Free State was established in 1922. Long before the Austrian corporal came along. Ireland was dirt poor and had a tiny military and had a couple of decades previously fought a war of independence from Britain(and was still being harassed by them politically). Yet quite clearly was significantly more "neutral" towards Nazi Germany.

    Examples of this included: Allied personnel who ended up in Ireland(crash landings etc) were magically always on "training missions" and repatriated, Nazi personnel were interned for the duration(as were Nazi leaning sympathisers in the IRA etc). Donegal flight corridor opened to the Allies, as was Killibegs harbour where Royal Navy search and rescue missions were based. Never mind Foynes seaplane base which carried a huge percentage of Allied Atlantic traffic on the quiet. Listened in on German transmissions and passed them on to London, broke a few German cyphers(and spy rings) and again passed them on. Ireland was seen as so instrumental in helping with the U-Boat crisis that the head of Irish Intelligence was directly invited to witness a mass surrender of same at Foyle harbour. Never mind the "EIRE" navigation signs dotted across the island. Useless for Nazi's great for transatlantic Allied flights. That's not even a complete list.

    And hopefully nobody comes out with the crap about DeV signing books of condolences for Hitler, because that would suggest they glean their Facts© from the socials, never read an actual history book, or got bored when it didn't have pictures. Hint: He didn't.

    Wasn't our ruling party Fine Gael setup by literal fascists? Which again would kinda lean into how we were more sympathetic in this country to fascism then we should have.

    There was quite a lot of Fascism going on in the 1930's. Italy, Germany, Spain, Portugal and Austria were ruled by them, with pretty much every European nation having fascist movements, large and small trying to gain power. However Ireland was way down the list of support for that politic, ditto for Communism. Plus it seems to have slipped your mind that even Britain was on that list for a time with Mosley's Blackshirt British Union of Fascists party which got high level support from some quarters at first, at one point had 50k+ members and was only outlawed in 1940 for obvious reasons.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • #11992
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124116843#Comment_124116843

    Was Ireland more or less fascist than say England? That's all that really matters here.

    Even if you're right Reform isn't a Nazi party so my original point stands. Which in itself was a tangent from the original argument which I'm clearly right about.



  • #11993
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,214 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124115428#Comment_124115428

    It totally has nothing to do with Grok's 2nd most popular function (after CSAM generation) being used to clown on the Trump clique.



  • #11994
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124117110#Comment_124117110

    Was Ireland more or less fascist than say England? That's all that really matters here.

    Less. Ireland wasn't the ruler of a world empire for a start, nor was it nationalistic beyond its borders, or nationalistic to the degree of feeling superior to others, or was it within an ass's roar of being as militaristic and corporatism barely existed here. Even our office of president is far more ceremony than power, which too many US MAGA morons don't understand. Then again that's a long list to be adding to.

    Even if you're right

    I'm afraid there's no "even" to it. It's called history.

    Reform isn't a Nazi party so my original point stands. Which in itself was a tangent from the original argument which I'm clearly right about.

    Nazi is too often bandied about, especially by too many of the bedwetter "Left" who scream it at the drop of a hat. The irony being their screaming is helping to cut a rod for their own backs. So no Reform is not a nazi party. It is a Right wing ultra-nationalist populist party, high on simple rhetoric and even simpler answers to complex questions. We'll gloss over the Moscow links while we're at it, and the BS they regularly flood social media with, X being the most obvious example. A platform flooded by bots, shills and bad actors. That either Musk can't control, which makes him an idiot, or fully controls which makes him a dangerous one.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #11995
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭corkie


    @L1011 And no, absolutely nothing Grok has every produced is 'hilarious', particularly when it involves the issue that XAI has created a tool that generates CSAM on demand.

    I don't condone using Grok to create CSAM or exploit photos of children.

    The results of what prompted from it, for cartoon villains in Bikinis,
    I don't think they got what they wanted. « Safe to view

    In theory it should be easy to restricted grok on what instructions it responds to? Excluding producing 'Nudes' or 'Striping clothes' etc.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • #11996
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124117315#Comment_124117315

    Couldn't agree with you more regarding the left abusing the term Nazi. All it does is reinforce themselves on the ultra left.



  • #11997
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124113722#Comment_124113722

    He's never been diagnosed. It's a claim he made. Like when he claimed to be one of the best in the world at a video game he obviously sucks at.

    And he's not making random nazi salutes all the time. He did it at a time and place where his audience would respond positively to it.



  • #11998
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124118750#Comment_124118750

    I suppose mandami and all the others doing that salute did it to please their "nazi" fans too?

    It's clear as day Elon is on the spectrum. His body language is so awkward. We can agree to differ because like I said earlier this doesn't excuse his behaviour good or bad it just explains his awkward movements which is a tangent to the main point I made. He wasn't saluting Hitler.



  • #11999
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124118676#Comment_124118676

    You seemed to ignore all the parts where your claims were proven to be entirely wrong. Eg fascistic Ireland and being sympathetic to Nazis which was a line you were pushing. Anyway, it seems that you're derailing the thread from Musk with rants about everything but Musk.



  • #12000
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124119084#Comment_124119084

    We had plenty of fascists in this country and many would believe more so then England who went to war against fascism. Obviously you'd have to factor in Irish people who joined that war effort.

    Btw it wasn't me who derailed by calling reform a nazi party. What I'm entirely right about is Musk like countless other figures wasn't saluting Hitler. I respect people who have a go at people like Musk or Trump but you lose credibility when you start making things up just because people want it to be true.



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  • #12001
    silliussoddius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124119012#Comment_124119012

    Still serious.



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