Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

You reckon we could stop trump !!!

I disagree that we could do little about any attack. Such an attack would likely not be done directly by divers, or by a submarine firing a torpedo at the cable. Instead, it would likely consist of a device of some sort being positioned on, or near the targeted cable that would then be set off by a pre-planned sonar pulse weeks, or even months down the line. The Russian navy has two dedicated “special project” submarines for that purpose, BS-136 “Orenburg” and K-329 “Belgorod”, and there is a precedent for such activities in the shape of operation Ivy Bells, the tapping of USSR communications cables by the US Navy in the 1970s.

As such, “all” that would be needed to secure the cables would be regular monitoring, combined with the ability to send down divers or ROVs once an unusual object has been detected. In that regard, it’s more akin to mine clearance than to regular anti-submarine work, although the latter would still be needed to detect the submarines themselves. It’s still a massive effort, but very much doable, once you have the proper equipment.

The Trump period will definitely be marked as the end of the post WWII era and the start of a very terrible new period.

Hard to define what that new period is, but seems to be bassically a resetting of what progress was made following WWII and what is now basically the rise of authoritarianism and tyranny in the US, marked by:

• illegal/ extrajudicial state actions
• gunboat diplomacy/ wars of convenience
• contempt for international law
• erosion of human rights

Ironic really that the Republicans have been so besotted by the rapid development of an authoritarian tyrant when they have always sworn to protect against such with their precious guns. In particular, 'Tea Party' types are supposed to be isolationists against colonialism.

Trump is acting like an overlord of a sovereign country of over 30 million people in Venezuela. Just plucking their leader out and saying US energy companies will 'run Venezuela' is utterly abominable and as bad as anything from colonial times.

The EU needs to toughen up and act quickly to ensure our survival at this point. Unimaginably, Trump's US are as likely as not to side with Russia against us and our interests, and they have already been actively undermining the institutions which underpin our society, in addition to fermenting unrest to sicken our society so that it might model theirs.

That would be tremendous

That an attack would only happen in the predicted scenario, there's too many other options to list

A lot of what will happen in Venezuela kind of depends on what happens next and I have little faith in Donnie nor his people having that much follow-though on any plan, let alone something this complex.

What’s happed so far is that Delta Force went in and did their special ops thing by storming in, taking Maduro and then getting out while Maduro’s forces are trying to figure out what it going on. But that’s pretty much it. I know the US have also been taking tankers over the last few days, but the Maduro capture hasn’t really done anything to progress the tactical situation yet. Instead of using him to pressure his people to accept an Occupation (as has sometimes happened with similar raids in history) they just brought him up to New York on some silly drugs charge.

In the meantime, Maduro’s party and state structures are still there. Venezuela is more or less the same as before…just minus Maduro. Just like when Chavez died, nothing much will change unless the current government is taken away or forced into an actual democratic election. That…or the US actually attempt an invasion. Neither has happened yet, and until they do all Donnie has managed to do is capture a guy that few people like…but hasn’t actually changed anything on the ground in Caracas.

Part of me suspects that Donnie thought that sending in Delta Force to capture Maduro would be enough to “win” this conflict…and that he isn’t really prepared for everything the needs to come afterward. He may end up finding himself under the same “Mission Accomplished” banner that old Dubl-ya used after “winning” the Iraq War.