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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Juran


    Exact dame thing I was thinking as I watched it. The military guy was speaking for a good while and Trump looked like he was about to collapse or have a stoke while standing to his left behind him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,038 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    This is surreal. So much talk from Trump about oil, and has said the US will be selling Venezuelan oil as US oil to other countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭TracyMartell


    why would that spring to mind? In what way do these 2 events align?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trump just said "we're going to end up talking about Cuba".

    Trump was just downplayed Marina Machado being the next leader, saying "it would be very tough for her being the leader if she doesn't have the support…doesn't have the respect there".

    It seems Maduro's VP Delcy Rodriguez is now in charge. Reports she is now in Russia.

    Trump says 'we are going to be taking a tremendous amount of wealth out of the ground of Venezuela and giving it to the people of Venezuela…and people outside…including the United States'. Hints at some sort of restitution for US companies. Might be a reference to property of US oil companies that Chavez and Maduro nationalised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,210 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Marco Rubio

    "Cuba is run by incompetent, senile men"

    The fùcking irony of him.saying that!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,604 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    More "steal Venezuela`s oil" than run the country.

    Trump has even admitted that is what this was all about from the outset.

    Any U.S. citizens who voted this robber baron as their president should hang their heads in shame



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Also threatened Colombia president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Trump was asked whether they would be running Venezuela for years and he said "it won't cost us anything".

    The world is in a Resource War.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I don't think so. I think he is completely under Trump's spell.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Hitler claimed he was annexing Czechoslovakia to "restore stability" - but the real reason was that it was a land grab, and a seizing of their economic assets, including their large arms industry complex.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    That's why Hitler went into Czechoslovakia

    For their resources eg iron ore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,959 ✭✭✭Patser


    So many unanswered questions?

    How are they going to run it? There's no troops on the ground, no new government ready to step in. So how do the US plan on running things?

    In the vacuum of leadership it'll be the lads on the ground with guns that will take control. That could be the army, or drug cartels, or any form of local armed group. Venezuela is fairly big, and a lot of it is remote, isolated jungle. Cartels could easily carve out areas of control, as a figurehead in power in Caracas with little army support sits there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    His failure to support the Opposition is disappointing. They won a landslide last year.

    He or Rubio say the new President (Maduro's VP Delcy Rodriguez) 'will do anything we want' according to Sky. She has just been sworn in.

    John Bolton, ex Bush UN Ambassador and briefly US NSA saying that Trump doesnt appear to understand that outside of Caracas "the regime is still in place" even if it might be fragile. Says "its not clear Trump thinks Machado is the person to govern Venezuela".

    Trump said in the press conference he hadn't spoken to her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    I hope they do and I hope they make life a living nightmare for any "US oil company" that comes in. Trump deserves a very real lesson here in geopolitical meddling. At this rate, when he eventually gets ousted and finally nailed like the scumbag he is, I hope they have a public hanging for him in his new ballroom.

    USA 2026 - The international embodiment of the Mafia



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    This. Is it an informed policy statement, or his rambling off script? If the former, hopefully someone thought about the mechanism. “Grab Maduro and put him on trial” is a simple, attainable goal with a definite mechanism and end state. “We’re going to run the country” is a lot more questionable given what we know so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,210 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Every country now needs to announce they're pulling out of the world cup



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Sky News making the interesting point that the US have had zero interaction with the Venezuelan opposition, including the Nobel Peace Prize winner Machado, and seemingly have no plans to work with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,038 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    He was very squirmy when a member of the press asked Trump about pardoning the former president of Honduras, Hernández, who had been sentenced in U.S. federal court to 45 years in prison for helping move tons of cocaine to the United States.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,343 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I'll leave it to the judge to decide if extra-judicial extradition from Venezuela to the U.S is acceptable when it comes to bringing some-one to trial in federal court. Trump wants the Dems to do what he usually does: put their feet in their mouths.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Not very FIFA peace prizey is it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,901 ✭✭✭threeball


    This is the same routine they used when they robbed Iran of its future. If theres any consolation, every empire came to its knees when they over extended themselves. Trump is reaching so far now, his toes aren't even touching the edge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,755 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Push me over with a feather.

    Oil, it’s all oil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I remember when Presidents got to the point in their speeches. This guy has been torture to listen to, since day 1.

    Plus he hasn't stopped sniffing. Easily one of the worst public speakers in history. The squirming around, reading from a script like a high schooler, yeesh..

    But, all that aside, one of the most terrifying speeches a US politician has ever given. Hyperbole, sniffing, rambling, and 'we have the biggest best weapons and will do what we want, when we want to and where.'

    Wow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,959 ✭✭✭Patser


    Look, it's relatively easy to plan an operation to take out a leader you don't like, especially with resources US has. Last nights operation from a purely military and planning aspect was brilliant. Minimal time, damage, no losses and 12 hours later there's the photo op of a former dictator in custody.

    But its the what's next that's hard. I think everyone assumed Machado was ready to be figuratively parachuted in to lead, with maybe some US troops as immediate protection while she got established and big shows of power by US air forces. She definitely was putting out messages along that line.

    Now suddenly Trump is saying No. Not her, the democratically elected leader that Maduro had usurped, even though she's been sucking up to Trumpmfor months....instead its..? Trump seems to think US can just tell Venezuela what to do for a while while he figures it out, but with no real point of contact or leader on ground to.coordinate with? Is he just going to post on Truth Social rough instructions for the Venezuelan population?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    The leader is gone, but the rest of the regime is still in tact



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,721 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    He might send someone over to collect you, like he did this morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,552 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump: "We're going to have our very large United States oil companies go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure and start making money for the country. And we are ready to stage a second and much larger attack if we need to do so."

    F**king bananas stuff.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Yeah, like, don't the newly judiciously liberated venezuelans get to say something about their oil and how to produce it?

    Just f*cking madness and so terrifying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭mountain


    all that matters is that Trump is having fun, he is the centre of world attention and lapping it up.

    The most self centred person possibly ever in world politics



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,755 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




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