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Tesla Talk 2

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    #1592
    tppytoppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭tppytoppy


    Troy Teslike guides 414000 delivered in Q4 2025. Official number will be announced tomorrow I think.



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    #1593
    khamilton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭khamilton


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124096114#Comment_124096114

    Jim Fan is not one of world's top 10 most prominent AI experts. He probably doesn't make the top 1000. Just because he liked Tesla's FSD, he's automatically a leading AI expert? Bizarre



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    #1594
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,211 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124108827#Comment_124108827

    Tbh I didn't know him myself either, just copied what I saw online. But if you are the top AI man in the world's top AI hardware manufacturer, also the most valuable company in the world, surely you know a thing or two about AI? 😂

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #1595
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,211 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    A good example of Elon time 😂

    Musk predicted at the start of 2017 that by the end of that year, a Tesla should be able to drive coast to coast in the USA without interventions. Ludicrously optimistic of course, but it actually just happened. Took 2 days and 20 hours to do the 4400km trip

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #1596
    khamilton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭khamilton


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124108883#Comment_124108883

    Knowing a thing or two about AI isn't the same as 'one of the top 10 most prominent AI experts in the world', and it's even more bizarre that you were just commenting on how some journalist is biased against Tesla yet here you are posting nonsense because you're biased toward Tesla. You can be a fan without being a fanboy and posting silly crap tbh

    Nvidia aren't in the top100 (or I'd hazard, 1000) companies in terms of AI research, and developing AI hardware (which Jim Fan isn't even involved in) isn't the same as being an expert in AI. Nvidia's internal AI research has been mostly confined to chip design and generative image generation.

    You saw someone post something glowingly positive about FSD and spread guff to bolster that positive opinion, right after posting 'Be very aware of anything that Electrek says about Tesla. Your man Fred Lambert used to be a Tesla fanboi but then he bought a knackered high mileage Model X that gave him a lot of trouble. Ever since, he has been a Tesla hater'.


    That would equally apply to you it seems, are ye going to post a disclaimer at the bottom of every reply you post in a Tesla thread?



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    #1597
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,211 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124110027#Comment_124110027

    OK fair enough, I can't really argue with most of the points you are making. I am just an observer, not academically into the field of AI. I do own a Tesla car with FSD, but I do not consider myself a Tesla fanboi and I do not hold any TSLA shares

    Are you an AI expert yourself? What is your view of a car, any car, driving coast to coast by itself, without any interventions. Surely that is some sort of achievement? Even if it technically still is L2?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #1598
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,194 ✭✭✭✭josip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124109763#Comment_124109763

    Did it need a human to insert the charging cable?



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    #1599
    tppytoppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭tppytoppy


    …and the official numbers are in: 418k

    https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/02/tesla-tsla-q4-2025-vehicle-deliveries.html

    They can only sell so many to other Musk companies and incentives are running out across the world while CO2 credits reduce.



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    #1600
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,211 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124110775#Comment_124110775

    What do you think yourself? 😂

    Although Tesla and others have experimented with robotic charge points. This is from 10 years ago:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMM0lRfX6YI

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #1601
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,194 ✭✭✭✭josip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124110895#Comment_124110895

    Perhaps I'm being unrealistic, but when you think about being able to do a coast to coast without any human intervention, is it very unrealistic to expect Tesla to be able to remove the human from the charging task?

    • Having to get out of the car to connect the cable is a common complaint, especially in Irish weather
    • Tesla have control over the design of both sides of the interaction.
    • The car charging port is a very well-defined, predictable space from a vision perspective.
    • Tesla have competence with robotics.


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    #1602
    ...Ghost...
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124110964#Comment_124110964

    I think with self driving Teslas (no humans in the car at all), we will see automated charge points rolling out. You're right that they have the expertise. I wouldn't think it's a priority and maybe we will just see some stalls starting for robo taxi use, but we will see them.

    Stay Free



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    #1603
    tppytoppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭tppytoppy


    Troy Teslike says depending on China sales figures might be predicting sales under 300k in a quarter.



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    #1604
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,638 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124111241#Comment_124111241

    Tesla can’t keep being No. 1. It was always bound to drop. Where it settles, god knows.



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    #1605
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,143 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Good man @tppytoppy - good to see a voice of reason in this thread.

    Welcome to the EV forum.



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    #1606
    Cyrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,392 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124111941#Comment_124111941

    Don't get him started on renewable energy...



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    #1607
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,961 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124109763#Comment_124109763

    I saw that video and I'm seeing many others rolling out similar content. It's able to do it without intervention now (which is great and a massive step forward) but it's not trusted by the OEM as hands off (ie the OEM is liable not the owner/driver/occupant). There are many other "funny" issues too like, a car doing a 300km drive between charging spots fully FSD without intervention but it parked in a "handicapped" (US vernacular) spot at the end.

    It's getting a lot closer, and certainly a lot better than 3-5 years ago, despite the issues with only using cameras.

    I still don't think it will be fully available as a L5 FSD no steering wheel needed by 2030 but for the first time I'd actually think it is possible in the 30's. The main objective will be narrowing the pareto to ~0 (ie better than a human), and regulatory hurdles.

    The first company that properly cracks this will balloon exponentially in value. Not for the hardware but for the software and regulatory approval. Can you imagine the barrier to entry to this market now for a brand new "FSD" player?



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    #1608
    yermanthere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭yermanthere


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124062726#Comment_124062726

    36-36.5k was my prediction. 😇



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    #1609
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,211 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Tesla launched the Model 3 standard in Europe today. In most countries about €3k cheaper than the Model Y standard. Not sure if the €3500 trade in bonus here is applicable?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #1610
    eagerv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭eagerv


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124133166#Comment_124133166

    Yes the €3500 trade in bonus is available for cash buyers. Afaik the standard has been available elsewhere (Except UK) for a while now



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    #1611
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,211 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124133298#Comment_124133298

    So about €32.8k on the road?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #1612
    eagerv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭eagerv


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124133439#Comment_124133439

    yes €32984 with scrappage…😊



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    #1613
    joe1303l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124133447#Comment_124133447

    It’s not really scrappage though is it ? I thought it was a €3500 top up on a trade in value that is usually pretty dismal. For many with something decent to trade in, you’d be better off to forget about the €3500 and sell your old car privately.



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    #1614
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,638 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124133501#Comment_124133501

    Correct.



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    #1615
    eagerv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭eagerv


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124133501#Comment_124133501

    I know it's not scrappage, that why I put a smiley for Unkel.



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    #1616
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    The €35k Tesla!!!

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    #1617
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,638 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    New showroom opening at Charlestown, Finglas.
    Exit 5 off the M50.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/tesla-to-open-new-dublin-showroom-as-model-3-price-drops-to-e32984-1851504.html


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    #1618
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,211 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124141223#Comment_124141223

    Ah I thought I saw a Tesla sign the other day near Swords too, figured I was imagining things

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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    #1619
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,194 ✭✭✭✭josip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124141223#Comment_124141223

    Kieran Campbell, its recently appointed Strategic Sales & Operations Leader in Ireland

    Is this also new? Tesla now making PR announcements beyond Musks tweets ?

    with its Tucson the biggest-selling model, 68 per cent of which were plug-in hybrids

    Ireland's fascination with fossil-powered Tucsons continues unabated :(



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    #1620
    Exiled Rebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124141362#Comment_124141362

    For me, EV sales overtaking petrol was the most eyebrow-raising line in the article.

    I have a 151 Leaf that's barely worth €3.5k. Tempting but at the same time it'd be a crying shame if they scrapped my 10 bar Tekna.

    Post edited by Exiled Rebel on


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    #1621
    jlang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭jlang


    "New products in the pipeline" is less fun when you realise it's just more variants of the Model 3 and Model Y. e.g. Standard Long Range RWD Model Y already launched in Germany will presumably come here soon. I see they've tweaked the financing examples there (rates/deposits/etc) to give the same €399 repayment for the Standard Long Range RWD and Premium Long Range RWD models when the raw price difference is actually €3000.



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