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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 12.02.26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,457 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Give it Keany



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭kyleman


    Regardless of who the manager is we have 6 fixtures in the next month and I really cannot see us winning many of them with the panel as it is at the moment.

    Afcon players probably won’t be back so we really need a few of those injured back playing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,580 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    If we can get in a new striker who can score a few goals, someone in midfield who can dictate play and someone at the back that isn't always injured we could make a late run for top 4.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Caustic


    I guess the best case if everything fell right for us would be Alonso, looks like he will get eaten up by the Madrid machine and spat out at some stage.

    Kiernan McKenna probably deserves a shot at a premier league job at some stage and he would have the 'united dna' and plays the right way, etc etc.

    Slow start to the season at ipswhich this season with a big player turnover but has turned things around, will most likely get another promotion and they played the league leaders Coventry off the park the other night.

    Kompany and to a lesser extent Masacera have shown the step up to a bigger job is possible from the championship

    Others have mentioned glasner but if he stick to his 3atb and plays games with casamerio rcb, mainoo at wing back and sesko as a 10 not sure he will keep the fans backing very long

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Quags


    Said it after the Everton game, until European place is decided then he either gets new deal or is gone. Only way he possibly goes before that is if United go on an unreal run of getting beaten!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭secman


    A new striker will have the same lack of service as the current and previous striker A seasoned striker would tear the bollix out of the players not seeing his runs, these young strikers just don't have the experience to ball them out of it .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    rasmus wont be coming back anyway:

    JUST IN- Fabrizio Romano:

    Napoli have confirmed that they WILL trigger the obligation to buy for Rasmus Hojlund next summer. It will be €44m + €6m.

    This is an IMPORTANT news for Man Utd in terms of getting fresh money to invest next summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,769 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Thats good price too.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,145 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I think we are finally starting to see changes on the football side of the club. The training facilities have been given a massive upgrade and we are hearing the right things from actual football people at the club. The INEOS signings have been more or less positive but we need a lot more. Our wage bill was massively reduced this season, down something in the region of 40% from before they took over. That reduction puts us right in the middle of the chasing pack in terms of money spent on wages, so we are where we are supposed to be.

    The fact the previous lot bought so many duds and spent such crazy money on wages is going to take a long time to correct. We've managed to reduce the wage bill and trim the squad but now the hard part comes where we need a lot of new players just to keep up with our competitors.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭The Subliminal Verses




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭scottser


    Very good point. You rarely see any of our players getting chewed out for missing passes, not seeing runs, not tracking back, etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,625 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    2 points off 4th is it? Can't imagine there is any thoughts at all about moving him on naturally.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,625 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    That's good news, I hear Barcelona have confirmed the opposite, that they won't be triggering the option on Rashford.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,817 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    When Bruno does lament missed passes he gets berated for whining and people start fantasising about him going to Saudi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,145 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Barca are notorious for not making loan deals permanent so no surprises there.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    TBH, assuming the next 19 games go like the last 62 games there will be no grounds to extend Amorim's contract. At this point, I really cant see him being the manager in August 2026. Maybe the club promised Amorim they would sign him wingbacks back in 2024 and screwed him over, but we are where we are.

    Real Madrid would have sacked Amorim 12 months ago when the results were already bad: 7 points from 8 PL games bad. He is already a lame duck. It is just a question if the club doubles down on him, or cuts their losses and trusts their long term planning can recover it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Caustic


    The whole real Madrid would have done something is such a nonsense argument we aren't real Madrid we haven't been close to them in a long time, they wood never be in the mess the glazers created from the way the club is owned and run.

    Madrid have always attracted the best players on the world and now of days they can actually just wait for them to run down their contracts to join them.

    The Spanish league is a two three horse league and Madrid are at the top the premier league is a whole different ball game, with clubs having massive amounts of money pumped into them through owners but also the way the tv money is shared.

    We are a club who has been yoyoing for years but generally sliding down the table for due to gross mismanagement, there is no Spanish club comparable to us only because our brand is so big, but it'd be better to compare us to o a top 5,6 then real Madrid.

    Of course we should never have fallen this far but again That's all on the glazers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    First bit sums up my thoughts.

    You can make arguments either way about sacking him now. I'd certainly be leaning towards the sack side of that debate.

    But I don't think you can make any kind of an argument for giving him a new contract which is basically what the club would need to do in the summer rather than having a lame duck manager winding down his final year.

    And I don't see them doing that unless we improve dramatically and make the Europa League. Especially after extending ETH only to fire him soon after.

    If we're not in Europe come May, which means we fall away rather than even continuing at our current pace, then they'll mutually agree a termination and bring in someone else.

    Glasner remains the most likely in my view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    i always thought that would happen with barce, and then try for another loan deal.

    if barce dont want to exercise the option (€30m), the brains trust need to make it clear to rashford that he wont be loaned again.

    sit on your arse, or move someplace else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    onana will be back as well, so thats another thing that needs dealing with



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Amorim has done nothing so far but I don't think it is that clear cut. We know INEOS like a review but what would a review show?

    One, a poor squad that started the season likely to be well out of the Champions League (make no mistake, this is a poor squad and team)

    Two, manager that struggled to get consistently positive results.

    Within that they will have to factor in the performance of the people they hired to run the club and what expectations they had. While reducing the squad wages and making do with players they know are short term (Maguire, Casemiro, Shaw for example) or years away from high performance (Yoro, Heaven, Dorgu for example) did they really expect the team to be top 4 or 5? Or is more likely they had a high expectation of missing out on the Champions League.

    After they previously concluded Ten Hag should stay on and they gave him a new contract, it is impossible to know what they will be thinking next summer because Amorim is either going to overachieve (if they get Champions League) or (more likely) land where this squad was expected too.

    There is every chance they allow things to roll along through the summer. Especially when Berrada and Wilcox will not be pushing for a change and admitting big mistakes in picking a coach and squad.

    Edit: Berrada said this in the summer, they could well be convinced the current situation is all expected and part of their master plan:

    "It was difficult in Pep's first year," said Berrada. "He didn't win anything and there was suspicion about whether he could implement his football vision in the Premier League.

    "People said he was arrogant and wouldn't change his style of play. But he stuck to his principles."

    Asked if he saw similarities between Amorim and Guardiola, Berrada added: "Very much so. It won't be easy, there'll be some difficult moments ahead. Nothing is going to get solved with one summer window, but we are on the right path.

    "We've put the worst part of this transformation phase behind us and now we're going to start building. I'm very confident we'll get back to the top."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    regarding the manager, i dont think we see a FT manager until after the WC (few decent managers will be out of a job after the WC).

    if amorim is sacked mid-season, i can see an interim until season end.

    if he survives till summer, he still might be sacked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Ya this is the most likely outcome. Pochettino, Naglesmann, Tuchel all tied up until after the WC. I would be targetting one of those. Wouldn't touch Glasner or Iraola, too big a step up for them IMO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    You're right that we aren't RM and haven't been close to them for a long time. But I already accepted that when I said RM would have sacked Amorim 12 months ago, while we have doubled down on him into 25/26.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Happy birthday to the gaffer, great to see him so well after his health issues a few years back.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    This is very rose tinted.....

    Do you honestly think the players that have been bought since INEOS have gotten involved have themselves improved since arriving?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Caustic


    Madrid wouldn't be in that situation, being 14th in the league sacking a manger who finished 8th the year before and the new guy finishing 15th 6 months later. So you can't say what they would do it just doesn't apply its nonsense. And we aren't comparable to them in any way at the moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,399 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    The squad isn't a title winning squad, but the greatest trick Amorim pulled was convincing the world that his team is far worse than it actually is.

    Simple fact, Ole and Ten Hag finished top 4 without any De Ligts, Mbuemo's or Cunhas. Ten Hag was a dead man walking for finishing 8th with Onana and Hojlund.

    I do not accept at all that there isn't a CL qualifying team there. Said it many times, but the vast majority of PL managers would wet themselves if you handed them Mbueno, Bruno, Amad, Cunha, Casemiro, De Ligt and asked them to pick a team.

    It has been the red flag right from the start of this whole saga, why is he not performing better than what was supposed to be some of the worst managers we ever had…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Happy New Year to you all..

    Seeing out the year with a few whiskeys and watching The United Way documentary

    Listening to Cantonas opening dialogue and listen to Amorim...polar opposites



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Amorim has not done a good job and was lucky to survive last season. I don't like making or presenting anything that looks like mitigation for him. So many things he does can be used to criticise his performance

    I just don't think there is a need to overrate the squad in the process of looking at where the club are. It is obviously a squad lacking in overall quality, depth and robust players. Some of its key players miss too many games, some can't complete games and the drop off in quality is significant when the better players are not available.


    For example Casemiro is not a player a manager wants to be building around. Just look at the last couple of games and how little he has to offer when Bruno is not around and how few games he has been able to finish.


    The new players like Mbeumo are still playing in a team using Luke Shaw (in 2025/26) who is not good enough to play CB or LB but ends up as a third CB and Diego Dalot who can't stop a cross. They are still playing with Mason Mount for a few games, as he gets his fitness up and then gets injured again.


    When players like De Ligt (who has missed a third of this season already) are out, the next players in are a drop in experience and or quality.


    Having a handful of good players is what a lot of team have hit that is not enough. Just look at Bournemouth, they were 9th last season. They had some serious quality available last season as shown over the last two windows - they have sold Huijsen (Real Madrid), Kerkez (Liverpool), Zabarnyi (PSG) and about to sell Semenyo to (Man City) - but lack quality overall and were inconsistent.

    To be a Champions League certainty a Premier League team needs a squad that can give them certainty. If they don't have that overall quality then a team will need a manager to get a lot right and have a lot of good fortune with injuries if they are to build the required momentum.

    If I was rating Amorim, I would not rate him well for what he has done, but I brought up squad quality in relation to Manchester United reviewing his performance. There is no way people that have to review him today can seriously pat themselves on the back and present an idea that they gave him a champions league squad and that the team is vastly underperforming (they are 6th today). Even at the end of the season, assuming things continue as they have been going, and he misses out on Champions League qualification then people like Berrada may be looking at an expected outcome.



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