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Imagine LTE Rural Broadband

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Notice of proposed Spectrum Transfer – Proposed transfer of spectrum rights in the 2.3 GHz band from BCP IV Telecommunications OPCO Limited to Eircom Limited | Commission for Communications Regulation

    BCP IV Telecommunications OPCO Limited’s (formerly Imagine Communications Ireland Limited) is to transfer its 40 MHz of 2.3 GHz spectrum to eircom, effective Feb 2026.

    eircom currently holds the remaining 60 MHz of 2.3 GHz spectrum

    I believe Imagine never used the band to service its subscribers.

    Safe to assume BCP IV will transfer its remaining spectrum holdings in the 2.6 GHz and 3.6 GHz bands in due course.

    BCP IV operates solely for the business of holding its’ spectrum assets following the sale of Imagine Broadband to Team Telecom back in December 2024.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Croftman


    Got the “decommissioning” letter from Imagine yesterday. Knew nothing about what was happening with them so came as a complete shock. I’m like some of the recent posters (was happy enough with them, can’t get fibre, no NBI for another year), who did you go to & how are you getting on? Starlink? Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,615 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    yes, I joined Starlink last September when Imagine landed me in the same predicament. Very happy with Starlink. Consistently high speeds (350-450mb), 100% reliable, no data caps. It’s ideal. I wouldn’t even bother with fibre if it became available to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    Speeds are great on Starlink but its dung for gaming, way too much latency jitter. Imagines jitter was very low for an LTE WISP. Can get away with stuff like WoW on Starlink but CS2 is out of the question. Will be switching to fiber as soon as it becomes available and keeping the dish for storms or outages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Croftman


    Thanks. I’ve kids who game a lot so this would be a big consideration. Is it real bad? Sorry can you explain “WoW” and “CS2”?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Croftman


    Thanks. I’ve kids who game a lot so this would be a big consideration. Is it real bad? Sorry can you explain “WoW” and “CS2”?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    World of Warcraft and Counter Strike 2 I'd imagine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Croftman


    Ah ok thanks. So certain games would be more difficult to play but that aside no issues? I dont think I have many options tbh with next to no mobile signal in the house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    Aye look if you've no other options then go for it, it'll do rightly as a stopgap to fiber and if the kids don't play fast shooter games then they might not notice. For everything else its mighty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Croftman


    Apologies, back again. So was onto NBI and we are due to be connected at the end of the summer. From what i can gather Starlink is a 12 month contract with no charge for the equipment but it is to be sent back if/when you cancel or a charge of €349 applies? Is what comes from them all I will need or will other items be required e.g. for wall mounting, internal wiring etc? Have a TP Link wireless system in the house currently and works ok.

    Spoke to Imagine on Friday last. Was basically told nothing they can do, that's it, I'm on my own. Nice bunch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,615 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Starlink will just send you the router and the "dish" (antenna), along with a ~20 metre length of CAT6. After that you're on your own. A DIY install is pretty straightforward if you're anyway handy, the Starlink App even walks you through it in terms of aligning the antenna correctly. Alternatively there are several independent installers all around the country who'll supply the appropriate wall brackets etc and mount it on your house for you for a fee! I can recommend a good guy I used based around the West of Ireland. If you're on Facebook, there's a good FB group called "Starlink Ireland" where you'll find plenty of installer recommendations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Further changes to the old Imagine licensed spectrum

    1. BCP IV Telecommunications has surrendered their 15 MHz of 2.6 MHz TDD spectrum (2570–2585 MHz) with effect from 12 December 2025. The remaining 30 MHz of TDD spectrum is held by Vodafone.
    2. They are transferring 3 blocks (15 MHz) of their 3.6 GHz rural spectrum to Vodafone, who hold the same urban spectrum blocks. Imagine/BCP IV continue to hold the remaining 45 MHz of rural spectrum for now under a temporary lease arrangement until Nov next.

    Notice of proposed Spectrum Transfer – Proposed transfer of spectrum rights in the 3.6 GHz band from BCP IV Telecommunications OPCO Limited to VodafoneLimited | Commission for Communications Regulation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    For anyone reading this more realistic average for starlink in Ireland is around 200-250mb. Not 300 to 400 although it can peak to that on occasion. Still good speeds although.

    However NBP is cheaper for the most part on deals than starlink so you'd be mad to choose it over NBP cos it simply costs more.

    For example you can get 500mb speeds on EIR NBP fibre for 35 euro per month for 24 month contract. Starlink cannot compete on speeds or price. You'd be throwing money away.

    Starlink is a superb back up unit to have though and worth keeping the equipment around..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭pauly58


    Until a tree goes through the fibre optic cable, trees round here haven't been trimmed in over thirty years, I can't see anyone doing it in the future. We'll stick with starlink.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Until.... That's why it makes a handy back up. Until then. You stick with paying 15 euro more per month that's 180 a year for slower speed and higher latency.

    Or.... Keep it as a backup... For when... Trees may go down.

    I don't understand people tbh 🤷‍♂️ free backup sitting there paused . Turn it on setup in 15 minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    When my NBI line went down a few months ago, I was able to re-establish my Starlink connection and was back in action in about 7 minutes - most of which was waiting for it to power up. It is absolutely a no-brainer backup connection.

    Just a word of caution to anybody keeping their SL kit powered off for long periods (many months), you should plug it in every so often and let the dish and router get software updates (you don't need to have an active sub for that).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Imagine just signed an agreement with Siro to access their fibre network.

    Price freeze until 2030, and apparently customers will be flexibility to leave their contracts

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/companies/arid-41794469.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭HerrKapitan


    Anyone receive their new box from Imagine. Our coverage ends in a few days and we still havent received the new box.

    Imagine staff marked it as urgent when I called.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Update on the the old Imagine (BCP IV Telecommunications) spectrum rights and other spectrum rights changes.

    1. 2.3 GHz band - transfer of 40 MHz of TDD spectrum (2360–2400 MHz) to eir with effect from 08/04/2026

    Spectrum Transfer Determination: Proposed transfer of 2.3 GHz Band spectrum rights of use from BCP IV Telecommunications OPCO Limited (formerly Imagine Communications Ireland Limited) to Eircom Limited | Commission for Communications Regulation

    2. 3.6 GHz band - transfer of 15 MHz TDD rural spectrum (3560-3575 MHz) to Vodafone with effect from 14/05/2026

    Spectrum Transfer Determination – Proposed transfer of 3.6 GHz Band spectrum rights of use from BCP IV Telecommunications OPCO Limited (formerly Imagine Communications Ireland Limited) to Vodafone Ireland Limited | Commission for Communications Regulation

    3. BCP IV Telecommunications still retain the remaining 45 MHz of 3.6 GHz rural spectrum, currently on lease to Imagine Networks until 4/11/2026

    4. Dense Air Ireland (Airspan Spectrum Holdings Ltd) surrendered 25 MHz of nationwide 3.6 GHz spectrum and 35 MHz of urban 3.6 GHz spectrum with effect from 31 July 2024. The spectrum remains unassigned.

    5. 2.6 GHz band - as previously mentioned BCP IV Telecommunications surrendered their 15 MHz of 2.6 MHz TDD spectrum (2570–2585 MHz) with effect from 12 December 2025. The spectrum, 15 MHz + 5 MHz (2615-2620 MHz) remains unassigned.

    BCP IV Telecommunications OPCO Ltd (formerly Imagine Communications Ireland Ltd) is a company that is majority owned by Brookfield, a global investment firm (“Brookfield”). BCP IV currently has spectrum rights of use in the 3.6 GHz Band only.

    3.6 GHz Band spectrum rights are being leased by BCP IV to Imagine Network Services Limited (“Imagine Networks”) (trading as Imagine), being used to provide fixed wireless services while Imagine Networks migrates its fixed wireless services customers to fibre and 5G services. Lease expires 4/11/2026.

    “BCP IV Telecommunications OPCO Limited is incorporated in Ireland and its sole geographic area of activity is within Ireland. It was formerly named Imagine Communications Ireland Limited. It operates solely for the business of holding its spectrum assets. It is part of the Brookfield-related telecoms investment structure which divested control of Imagine Communications Group Limited in December 2024. Ultimately, BCP IV is controlled by Brookfield Asset Management, a NYSE listed Alternative Asset Management. BCP IV has no turnover.”

    Post edited by The Cush on


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