Israel/Palestine Thread

from Dr. Razy Baroud

Israel is a European offspring, the hideous creation of Western imperialism and colonialism. It is settler-colonialism in its ugliest manifestation, where the natives are not even allowed to serve the role of the inferior, the collective servant of Westerners and their fraudulently superior culture. In the Israeli settler-colonial model, Palestinians are to be eliminated, as exemplified by David Ben-Gurion, the primary architect of the Zionist project in Palestine and the first prime minister of Israel, when he stated that “the Arabs must go (or “we must expel the Arabs), but one needs an opportune moment for making it happen, such as a war.”

@SeanW I can't believe you are still at this craic.

These crimes are real. The evidence is enormous. Almost all humanitarian NGOs, even in Israel, are telling us what this is. Almost all international medical groups. Almost all organisations specializing in international law, scholars specializing in Genocide, UN special committees etc. It is unprecedented that they could all be getting it wrong, unless you can show me any such case?

We have heard and we have read hundreds of murderous statements from Israeli politicians, hundreds have been submitted to the ICJ. Do you genuinely not know this?

You can't be so naive to believe at the v minimum ethnic cleansing is not taking place given all we know, nor expect anybody else to be so naive. How do you explain the starvation campaign? The settlements in the West bank? All these things, and many many more, going on that go against your whole feeble narrative, it's just not credible.

And lastly, you cannot say that Jews worldwide are not Israel as you did on that Bondi thread (I agree with you), and then claim that criticism of Israel’s crimes is an attack on Jews. Those two positions contradict each other.

Why do you continue to collapse the Jewish identity into Israeli state violence? Do you really want them to get away with it so much that you would throw innocent Jews under the bus to facilitate it?

For President Trump, this could end like those moments with Epstein … best deleted and erased as soon as possible 😁

There may not have been concrete deliverables on Gaza from the meeting between US President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday, but one thing is for sure: Trump is receiving yet another trophy. 

Netanyahu said he is awarding Israel's highest cultural honour, the Israel Prize, to the US president "for his tremendous contributions to Israel and the Jewish people". 

It has never been awarded to a non-Israeli citizen before.

Germany just as Israeli-loving as Britain. The Ulm 5 held in similar situation to Elbit 5. Imagine Britain and Germany arresting protesters against Russia!

https://www.theleftberlin.com/germany-vs-the-ulm-5/

I cannot control what another poster says.

I also (unlike yourself) can see a distinction between Jews as a collective and the state of Israel and the IDF.

Russia has committed war crimes and I condemn them for it. If a case of genocide is brought before the ICJ (more than likely won’t be unfortunately due to their hold over energy and US links) then we can discuss that in the appropriate thread.

There is an actual case of genocide against Israel that has been brought before the ICJ which you continue to ignore for some reason?

The Yemeni and Saudi's have given the UAE 24 hours to get troops out of the country going by the strongly worded statement from Riyadh today.

Israelis are being indoctrinated from the cradle to the grave to hate and fear Palestinians and see them as worth less than them. They are bombarded with propoganda and fake news too.

This guy is a Palestinian who chats online to random Israelis, asks about the situation in Palestine etc. The majority of people he speaks to have been brainwashed and when asked hard questions will either hang up or blow up.

There is hope though, some, mostly younger people, still keep an open mind.

Israel closes UNRWA office in Palestine

Israel's Knesset on 30 December formally approved legislation that immediately severs electricity and water to UNRWA offices in occupied Jerusalem, a punitive measure targeting the UN agency that serves over 110,000 Palestinian refugees in the city.