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Ford kuga 12v battery issues

  • 29-12-2025 11:09AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭


    My mams 2018 diseal Ford kuga is having some battery issues and would appreciate any advice around it. Replacement battery is €150-200 so I just don't want to replace it for nothing!

    She was staying here Christmas eve, people were going in and out of the car to grab different presents etc.

    Christmas morning car wouldn't start. Maybe someone left a light on, or door open, not sure. Tried to jump it with battery booster packs and it seemed to make a better effort at starting, but didn't start. I tried to start it a good few times with the booster pack. I measured the voltage on the battery after and it was 8v

    I hooked it up to a 12v battery charger I have from lidl and charged it for 6 or 7 hours and it was back above 12v (I can't remember exactly what, maybe 12.4). Hooked the battery back up to the car it started fine. My mam brought it for a 20 minute drive and all fine.

    Didn't start again next morning, wouldn't even respond to the key , had to manually open the door with physical key. Measured 7.5v. Gave it a much better charge, up to where the car charger was reading 13v.

    When car is on, voltage measures 14v, so I'm guessing the alternator is fine?

    Car battery was measuring 12.5v last night and measuring 12.2v this morning

    So to me it's either a bad battery or something is drawing power.

    My mam wouldn't be the most observant of messages from the car, but she thought it wS complaining about the key battery the last few days. I have replaced that too, but probably a coincidence or red herring

    Battery in the kuga has a Ford sticker on it so I'm guessing it's the original, which would make it 7 years old, although there is a chance previous owner would have got it replaced by Ford

    Thanks



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Just replace the battery. It's most likely an 8 year old battery at this stage and it's struggling to hold a charge or start the car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Sounds like it's the original battery on the way out after almost 8 years.

    A few frosty nights didn't help.

    Go to a motor factor and get a new one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭mk7r


    You need a proper battery tester as measuring the voltage doesn't tell you anything unfortunately.

    I'd agree the consensus to replace the battery



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    try a trickle charger first if you can get your hands on one we have a 252 focus with same issue its a widely known ford problem batterys seem to drain very easily when cars dont get regular use!

    I trickle charge it twice a year to make up for lack of use!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Thanks for the replies. I Replaced the battery this evening, bit of a dog to remove the old battery as I had to remove the air box first and then fold down some plastic harness to get the battery out.

    It's the third car I've changed a battery in and it was by far the most awkward!

    Motor factors was saying they were selling loads of batteries today



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭mk7r


    Yeah the cold snap will kill any borderline batteries, just make sure you got a decent brand like exide or yuasa and you won't have any issues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    The old one didn't owe you anything anyway.

    Nearly eight years is good going.

    The replacement never seems to do as good as the original.

    How much was it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭John.G


    With engine idling and dipped beams+heated rear screen+cabin fan on a fairly low speed , say 2, check that the battery voltage is still 14V, if not, switch off in reverse order until you do get 14V, all my VWs would charge at 14V+ with those three items switched on, engine idling.

    Also if ever again using a trickle charger wait until the voltage reads 14.4V, it will then drop to and maintain a trickle charge of ~ 13.5V, 0.8A.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭mk7r


    Ford use smart charging so the voltage will range from 12v-16v depending on the load and battery state



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭John.G


    Same, so, as my 2019 Polo, I have a DVM (digital volt meter) permanently plugged in to the interior power point, it never falls below 13.3/13.5V and allways on overrun rises to 14.6/14.8V but I've never seen it higher than 15.0V. The car is exactly 7 years old doing very short runs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭colm reilly


    accume its the 2.0 tdci as you didnt state which engine ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭mk7r


    VW use a totally different system to the Ford one, its very common to see Fords at both 12v and over 16



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    I was guessing it was the original because of the Ford label on it, but wiring loom attached to the front of the battery cover looked like it had been removed before so maybe it has already been changed!

    €145. I didn't get a choice in battery brands etc (I can't even remember what I got) but it was a like for like replacement. It's a small town motor factors but its where my mechanic uses so I assume its decent enough.

    It is the 1.5. I'm not insured to drive it so other than driving it from one spot in my driveway to another I don't really know what its like to drive.

    Yeah the battery charger I have has a voltage reading and a battery indicator that has 4 segments. I think it was only showing 2 segments when I took it off at 13V so there was probably more charging to go, but I wasn't sure if I was wasting my time keep going with it.

    The battery charger says it automatically switches over to a trickle charge when its finished charging.

    I was disconnecting the battery from the car every time I was connecting the battery charger, as thats what it says in the manual, I assume that's the correct procedure too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,759 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    ….

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭John.G


    You can let the battery connected IMO, just ensure the negative charger cable is attached to a (the) earthing stud on the car body and NOT to the battery negative terminal, the car BMS system will then see that and use it in its calculations for the required charge, not sure about Ford's charging methods but my battery is never charged beyond 85% SOC, presumably to make room for the allways charging voltage of 14.8 ish volts on overrun, it will be interesting to see how long my original battery lasts because in 63 years of VWs, all lasted for ever, apart from one, and were only replaced precautionery after 10/12 years as the cars were being passed down the line, all charged at a constant 14.2/14.4V, the one that required replacing, after 5/6 years, was on my first car, a 6V, 1963 beetle.,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Car batteries have a very definite lifespan and can be considered consumables. The first battery will generally last a long time. 5+ years and maybe even as long as 10 yrs. Subseqent batteries will only last fractions of that. The reason for this is typically the original battery is from a quality manufacturer and the cars wiring and electrical devices are all in tip top condition... over time they deteriorate and use/waste more electrical power. By their nature older cars also tend to spend more time sitting idle…which is bad for the battery.

    It sounds like your battery has reached its natural end of life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭John.G


    I often wonder what "kills" a battery apart from a failed cell, wonder does the internal battery resistance increase to a level that the voltage drop while trying to crank the engine not leave enough voltage bearing in mind that the solenoid which probable only takes ~ 60A to slowly rotate the starter pinion while pulling it in and closing the main contacts to apply full starter voltage. I think (but could be mistaken) that I measured the cranking current on a (Petrol) Formel E Golf at 300A on a cold winters morning, most cars will start well within say 3 secs, so the battery only requires to provide, 300*3/3600, 0.25AH, the sqroot of nothing of battery capacity, even if the starting current was doubled then still only 0.5AH required.

    The internal resistance of my 59AH battery was 6.6mOhms after 18 months and just recently, after almost 7 years has "only" increased to 7.4mOhms, so a 300A crank will drop the voltage by 300*7.4/1000, 2.22V voltage drop but of course, say with a 600A crank (diesel??) will drop the voltage by 4.5V which doesn't leave a lot of actual cranking voltage. Don't know what a new battery internal resistance is but possibly around 1.0/2.0 mOhms??.

    For interst, my battery (after 18 months) had a SOC of 85% and a "Usable battery charge" of 38AH, latest reading shows SOC of 79% and a usable battery charge of 27AH. (59AH EFB battery).

    Another thing that puzzles me is that my older non smart alternators charged at a constant 14.2/14.4V yet the battery only required topping up by a few thimbfulls of distilled water once a year or so, so when does overcharging start, rememer all the commercial travellers that drove for hours on end up and down the country without any overcharging problems.



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