Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

It's very difficult to see how Putin would agree to any 'peace deal'. He keeps telling the Russian public he is winning the war ; it would have to be some sham of an agreement that gives Russia virtually everything it wants and which visibly screws over Ukraine before he would sign it.

The only reason we keep hearing about these peace talks month after month is because the orange one is in thrall to Putin and Russia and doesn't like Zelensky.

Id like to think after his demise there will be a concerted effort to scrub his name from everything .. I’d imagine after this maga nonsense is gone the name Trump will be dirt

Oh absolutely. Any deal Putin signs is either going to be heavily in Russias favour or have such narrow parameters it will be impossible to be enforced by normal terms.

The big part for university levels is it upends a lot of concepts like rational leaders in major powers. US foreign policy pretty much becomes a comedy act… I would say the likes of conspiracy theories do end in a weird scenario where they've got a lot more evidence than anything in modern US history.

Trump says peace is not a "one day" process.... He should tell that to _checks notes_ Donald Trump, who campaigned on ending the Russia Ukraine war in _checks notes_ one day.

Are you sure ? The BBC says

"The US president said an agreement on this point was "close to 95%" done, but Ukraine's leader has since said that he wants guarantees for up to 50 years"

From NPR article.

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/19/nx-s1-5619695/poverty-safety-net-programs-2025-chaos

At HAPCAP, services include Meals on Wheels, Head Start, a public bus system, employment help, and a food bank that serves 10 counties across southeast Appalachian Ohio.

It's an impressive range, but this year that's also made it a big target for federal funding cuts.

In a statement, an OMB spokesperson said these anti-poverty programs fund "radically partisan activities, like teaching toddlers to be antiracist and 'LGBTQIA+ welcoming.'" It also criticized a program that combined affordable housing with clean energy "in the pursuit of both economic and environmental justice."

"President Trump ran on fiscal responsibility and ending wasteful DEI spending in government," the statement says."The American taxpayer should not be made to fund critical race theory."

FFS!

"Like teaching toddlers to be anti-racist". Coz, thats such a bad thing isn't it?

Roy Moore, I think. He certainly looks the part.

Yes, Roy Moore it was. Perhaps his notion of discretion was taking off his hat.

I think that was the worst meeting of its kind I’ve ever seen.

These type of haranguing encounters nearly always happen behind closed doors. But even by that standard, this was an unusual encounter - Trump and Vance were practically shouting at Zelensky, really aggressive and confrontational.

The really interesting thing about this poll is that the numbers for Independents are very close to those for Democrats.

I am optimistic that things can get worse – politicalbetting.com

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My guess is they are referencing his 1.4billion palace on the black sea

Ukraine emphatically denied a Russian allegation Monday that a Ukrainian drone attack targeted one of President Vladimir Putin’s residences.

President Donald Trump said Putin told him of the alleged attack in a phone call early Monday. Trump indicated that he took Putin at his word before allowing, in response to a reporter’s question about the Ukrainian denial, that the attack may not have occurred.

As a result of the alleged attack in the Novgorod region, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who first publicly aired the allegation, said “Russia’s negotiating position will be revised” in the ongoing peace talks seeking to end Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine. Lavrov said no damage or casualties resulted from the incident but that the Russian military has selected targets for “retaliatory strikes.”

He appeared to be referring to the heavily fortified Valdai presidential residence, which is situated on the shores of Lake Valdai in Novgorod Oblast in northwestern Russia. Lavrov did not claim that Putin was in Novgorod at the time.

Putin told Trump it happened. Trump believed him but then conceded that maybe Putin had been telling porkie pies.

If this was a plot of some political satire, people would say it's too far fetched.