Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

”they” being the Catholic Church. The Reichskonkordat have religious freedom to the Catholic Church in Germany, and it protected Catholic institutions in Germany too in exchange for the church to stay out of political activity.

Not sure that is “reductive”, it’s just history.

Anyway, we are off topic here.

I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

I'm starting to think there may be something to these Epstein files that Trump likes underage girls with the way he starts to bomb countries and highjack oil tankers treating war whenever there is a Epstein files drop to the public.

He doesn't seem too bothered about zionist Jews attacking Christians in Israel. Weird for a devout Christian like him that he cherry picks his bad guys.

Trumps post reminds me of when the man in Home Alone 2 firing the machine gun in the black and white movie says afterwards "merry Christmas you filthy animals". Unhinged.

Separately regarding the Warren Buffett video I posted earlier. I found it on Thinkvest and it's gone viral. But some are suggesting it's an AI deepfake. I didn't know that when I posted it and I'm unsure.

It's also a derangement to see it only in terms of religion, when Trump has no problem with Christians being murdered in Ukraine and Gaza by his buddies.

Because Nigeria has that sweet sweet oil

Poor old Morgan Spurlock didn't make it to age 55 after only one month on a McDonalds diet. Surely, the clock is ticking for everyones favourite felon?

The Ukrainians don't need protecting - the Russians are very careful only to target Nazi/military installations. Indeed, there have been times when they've respectfully refrained from launching the full extent of their arsenal out of respect for the civilian population.

I read that on the internet, so it must be true.

And I'm pretty sure that's the only version of the truth that's getting heard in the Oval Office. Only the other day, I heard Trump lamenting the "needless killing" of about 27000 soldiers in November. Funny how closely that number corresponds to the number of Russian invaders killed in November; no particular concern for the Ukrainians killed during the same period.

Pretty much.

It’s why they’ve been redacted so heavily.

the TDs is nuts. the worst I have heard is pat Kenny, I reckon he is quitting the week day radio because of it. he is obsessed, its actually hilarious to listen to

The church was in a rock and a hard place with regards to both Hitler and Mussolini during the war. The Vatican was surrounded by the Axis powers and could do nothing about it, so some sort of official "relationship" had to be observed if they were to maintain any kind of independence. And that independence was essential as it gave the church enough freedom to allow it to act as a conduit for information to the allies. Pope Pius XII even had a codename assigned to him by British intelligence, "The Chief", and the church had been passing information on German movements to them since early 1940. There were a number of Germans who took great risks, like Josef Muller, who was providing intel directly to the Pope's private secretary, Robert Leiber and before the Nazis gained power in 1933 it was actually the Catholic church who formed the main religious opposition to them. After the Nazis had consolidated their power and banned all other political opposition, that position had to change if the church was to continue to exist.

Likewise, both the German and Italian leadership had a tricky situation on their hands with regards to the church. They knew that millions of people in Germany, and especially Italy, were Catholic and that it was an essential part of their lives. In fact Hitler said that the volk and the church were intertwined as one and messing with that would mean disaster for their government, so they pretty much left the main churches alone even though they cracked down on individuals within those churches who spoke up against them. The churches knew that there were individuals high up in the Nazi Party that openly hostile to them, like Josef Goebbels. But Hitler didn't share Goebbels' views and he knew that there were millions of party members and members of the armed forces that were devout Christians.

There's been this odd finger pointing at the Catholic church since the end of the war about their "collaboration" with the Nazis and their lack of speaking up about Nazi atrocity. But these fingers are never pointed in any other directions and the Lutheran and other Protestant churches, as organisations, didn't publicly speak out either to any consistent degree. Yet, somehow, they seem to escape the accusations. There's debate about whether the Catholic church could have done more to tackle Hitler and the Nazis, but the fact is that there just wasn't room to do that on a grand scale without very serious reprisals. But, at the end of the day, Catholic resistance to the Nazis far outweighed any kind of cautious cordial relationship that may have been maintained on a surface level.