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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭kyote00


    I put it into ChatGPT to summarise , then find trump refs, then summarise content/findings in single page.

    Answer1: Based on a thorough review of the provided legal document, here is a comprehensive list of all named individuals, organized by the page number(s) on which they appear. This list includes parties to the case, attorneys, witnesses, deponents, and other mentioned individuals. Redacted or partially redacted names are noted accordingly

    Answer2: Based on a thorough review of the provided legal document (Giuffre v. Maxwell filings and exhibits), there are no pages that mention or reference Donald Trump.

    The document focuses on allegations involving:

    · Jeffrey Epstein
    · Ghislaine Maxwell
    · Prince Andrew
    · Bill Clinton
    · Alan Dershowitz
    · Leslie Wexner
    · Jean-Luc Brunel
    · Various other associates, employees, and alleged victims.

    If you are looking for references to other individuals, please let me know.


    Answer3: Summary of Giuffre v. Maxwell Court Filings

    Core Case: Defamation lawsuit filed by Virginia Giuffre against Ghislaine Maxwell. Giuffre alleges Maxwell recruited her as a minor for Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual abuse scheme and then publicly called her a liar. The filings are discovery motions and exhibits from 2016.

    Key Allegations & Evidence:

    1. Sex Trafficking Operation: Giuffre and other witnesses describe a systematic operation where Maxwell, acting for Epstein, lured young women and girls with offers of legitimate jobs (e.g., massage therapist, assistant) that were fronts for sexual exploitation.
    2. Maxwell’s Central Role: Multiple sources, including flight logs, police reports, and testimonies from employees (Alfredo Rodriguez, Juan Alessi) and another recruit (Johanna Sjoberg), place Maxwell at the center of recruiting, managing, and participating in the abuse.
    3. Involvement of Powerful Figures: The documents allege that Epstein trafficked victims to other powerful men, including Prince Andrew and attorney Alan Dershowitz. Bill Clinton is mentioned in the context of travel on Epstein’s plane.
    4. "Massage" as a Euphemism: Testimony establishes that “massage” was a code for sexual acts. Epstein required multiple “massages” per day from different girls.
    5. Witness Intimidation: Alfredo Rodriguez testified that Maxwell threatened him after he left Epstein’s employment, telling him not to “open your mouth.”

    Key Obstacles in Discovery (as of 2016):

    · Maxwell’s Deposition: During her 2016 deposition, Maxwell repeatedly refused to answer questions about “consensual adult sex” with Epstein or others, invoking privacy. She also claimed an extensive lack of memory (“I don’t recall”) regarding key events, flights, and victims.
    · Evasion of Service: Jeffrey Epstein and alleged co-conspirators Sarah Kellen and Nadia Marcinkova (named in Epstein’s non-prosecution agreement) were actively evading service of deposition subpoenas.
    · Fifth Amendment Invocations: In prior depositions, Kellen and Marcinkova invoked their Fifth Amendment rights when asked about their roles in the alleged trafficking scheme.
    · Broad Discovery Needed: Given Maxwell’s non-answers, Giuffre’s legal team moved to take 17 depositions (exceeding the standard limit) to corroborate her story through circumstantial evidence from pilots, household staff, police, and other witnesses.

    Purpose of Filings:
    The specific documents are motions by Giuffre’s lawyers to:

    1. Compel Maxwell to answer deposition questions about sexual activity relevant to the alleged pattern of abuse.
    2. Serve subpoenas by alternative means on Epstein, Kellen, and Marcinkova, who were evading service.
    3. Exceed the deposition limit to gather necessary testimony from a wide network of witnesses.

    Overall Finding: The documents paint a detailed picture of an organized sex trafficking ring led by Epstein and Maxwell, while highlighting the legal hurdles faced in obtaining direct testimony from key participants, who employed tactics of evasion, silence, and feigned forgetfulness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,969 ✭✭✭Patser


    Hate to tell you. They 'found' another MILLION documents, and just on Christmas Eve too. Any chance you can read up on them AMKC over Christmas? DoJ are looking for volunteers in their staff to remotely review and redact them.

    There'll have to be some juicy leaks, as pissed off, pissed up staff at home over Christmas start looking at these documents



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,281 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    A civilised superpower would offer Greenland whatever they need in return for sea port access, instead they get trump vance and vances naive wife acting the weirdo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,321 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Chat GTP summary - I had read very fast/skimmed through a lot of the pages and did find one reference to Trump. Not particularly incriminating more a 'he was there' reference. Couple of references to Mar a lago. There may have been others, but it was mostly related to the people listed by ChatGTP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,716 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    That's because everything of substance with his name mentioned has been redacted.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭kyote00


    Yes, Mar-a-Lago is mentioned in the document.

    It appears on Page 43 (PDF pagination 44) in a segment from Ghislaine Maxwell's deposition transcript.

    Context: During Maxwell's deposition, she is asked about how she first met Virginia Giuffre (then Roberts). The specific exchange is:

    Q. Do you recall meeting her at Mar-a-Lago?
    A. Like I said, I don't have a recollection of meeting Ms. Roberts.

    Maxwell denies recalling the meeting at Mar-a-Lago, maintaining she has no recollection of her first meeting with Giuffre. This is part of a pattern in her deposition where she claims not to remember significant events and interactions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,105 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Greenland is all about resources and fk all to do with defence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Slideways


    Now I despise the cretin but inferring anything other than cringey politician publicity stunt form this call only portrays his opposition in a bad light.

    He does plenty that is worthy of dissection without clutching a straws such as that post on xitter does



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,716 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I don't see any clutching at straws in that video. Just an old pervert.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,105 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    It does feel a bit dodgy, though. He tries to correct with "you sound so intelligent", but it's already done. Maybe he would have been better served by skipping it this year, but then people might point that out as the action of a guilty man.

    This Epstein thing isn't going away, even if it isn't the thing to de-throne him.

    Merry Christmas everyone, btw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,576 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    1000028335.jpg

    Hopefully this'll be the last Xmas tweet from this pathological lying, bitter, pathetic sh1t stain on American history.

    The end is nigh for him, and hopefully it'll be sooner rather than later.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    He is absolutely delusional if he thinks America is respected at the moment. The doctors should put that on his dementia screening tests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    It’s not respected but it is feared, it’s got a very big stick and it’s waving it around, but shoukd that stick weaken….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Of course its feared, the biggest stick in history being wielded by a madman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Warren Buffetts predictions on the impact of Trumps distancing US from NATO on defence stocks and says for years, Europe has been reducing dependence on US.

    Trump admin accused by ex GSA official of planning to demolish more heritage sites. Many of them have architectural styles that are out of kilter with Trumps preferred Neoclassical styles. Targeted buildings include those with 1970s style "brutalist" style, an a building built in ancient Egyptian style.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,321 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Is that video AI? It doesn't seem to hang together? Trump needs Congress approval to pull out of Nato, and while he has been muttering I haven't seen any evidence that he has attempted to do it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Bitcoin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭somenergy


    Oh the felon's dementia is been covered up 100% say he sleeps most of the day.

    The problem is Christian nationalists are running the show aka maga advisers the likes of Miller and co. congress deliberatly sidelined is policed by maga Mike.

    To compete the hate trick judge's are on side.

    Democracy was stolen by a movement they didn't have to storm the capital this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,790 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    A wall of lies.

    He is, always will be, a clown.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,673 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The bizarre phenomenon of 'Christian nationalism' appears to becoming a big thing in right wing politics. We even have our share of them in Ireland, proclaiming their undying love for Christmas and religion and complaining that many bad elements in government and the media are supposedly trying to cancel Christmas and our religious heritage (even President Connolly is one of their targets).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭yagan


    For traditional allies it's more the fact that roughly a third of the US electorate voted three times for a MAGA candidate. It's no secret that the Trump has undermined NATO solidarity in negotiating with Putin.

    The only question is how much of Washington's estrangement from its old allies is permanent. Even if the Epstein saga forces a Republican rebellion will they still value old allies or continue with America First?

    A society that always believed it was the best in the world will just get angrier if living standards continue to crater.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,790 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    There is a very long history with the Christianity and the right-wing, the Vatican and Hitlers Germany were very close.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yep, clearly AI. Now compare it to AI of 18 months ago. it's so much better and will fool a lot more people. Run forward another year or two and it'll be bloody hard to spot the fakes and soon might be nigh on impossible. Forget the overblown hype of AI gaining actual intelligence, this guff is imho by far the greatest threat. So many were broken by covid, at least a third of any given society are at best detached, at worst utter morons, social media is almost entirely captured and monetised and/or politicised, so I fear any sort of objective truth is in a very real danger of going extinct. For too many it's already on the endangered list.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,673 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Though in fairness, many within the actual Church were having none of it. Monsignor Hugh O'Flaherty was a notable example of someone who helped thousands of people (including Jews) escape the Nazis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I read Jake Tappers book Original Sin about the cover up of Biden's health. The thing I took from it was the blame falls firmly at Jill Bidens feet, because not only was she pulling the strings from behind the curtain but she was also encouraging Biden to run again after he had said he wouldn't. Which ultimately had no small part in handing the Whitehouse to DJT.

    This time around, I wonder who is pulling the strings. It can't be Melania as she hasn't/doesn't spend enough time in the WH. It's not Marjorie Taylor Green (anymore any way) nor Elon Musk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Exactly there are loads to throw at Trump without exaggeration or making stuff up (good example Nero fiddled) and have been showed you lied



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Are there parallels between Jill Biden and Nancy Reagan in that respect?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    To be honest I don't know enough about Nancy Reagan to comment.



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