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Using dipped headlights in daylight. Why?

  • 23-12-2025 01:09PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭


    I’ve been driving for a few years now. Haven’t got my license yet (took test earlier this year and failed) but I’m working on it. One thing which I can’t understand is why so many drivers seem to have their headlights on in day time. I’m talking here about dipped headlights which you have to use at night. In the last few days, for example, the weather has been grey and overcast a bit and scores of drivers I see have their dipped headlights on – this is in the middle of the day when all cars are perfectly visible. Why? Any driver whose eyesight is so bad that they can’t see another car coming towards them in the middle of the day without headlights on shouldn’ t be driving a car at all surely? In really bad weather I can see the necessity for it alright but not otherwise.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,468 ✭✭✭markpb


    It aids visibility for all road users, not just drivers, It's especially important for white/grey cars that can be harder to spot in the distance on overcast days. For newer cars, the lights can come on automatically on grey days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,482 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    My previous car was grey. In standard Irish weather conditions it may as well be invisible. Dips stayed on all the time.

    My current car is yellow, but because its quiet it appears to be completely invisible to pedestrians. Dips are staying on again, just in case it helps!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    I don't think you should be saying who should and shouldn't be on the road when you've been driving for a few years and failed your driving test.

    Dipped headlights make cars more visible to all road users and pedestrians. Majority of modern cars automatically have the lights to come on as you'd be amazed the amount of drivers who drive at dusk or even night and forget to put on their lights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,262 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Why would you NOT have dipped lights on?

    It definitely won't make you any less visible, and probably will make you more visible …. so…???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭furiousox


    If you have to ask…….

    You are a khaki coloured bombardier, it's Hiroshima that you're nearing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭JVince


    If you've been driving a few years and have failed a test - maybe that gives you a hint of why you think a very good and necessary safety aspect of driving is "not required".

    A selfish "i can distinguish" the other cars, so to hell with any other road users or pedestrians attitude that is likely the cause of your failure to obtain a full license



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    There was a campaign to use them years ago, and then DRLs became more prominent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    There's no need for the condescending snotty judgement. I take great care and caution when driving and have taken many lessons and tried to correct whatever faults I was made aware of. I also cycle and walk a lot and am well aware of the dangers to cyclists and pedestrians from cars. And not once in all the lessons I've taken or the test - theory or practical - has anyone mentioned the use of headlights in daylight. The fact that I've posted this query on Boards should indicate that I want to find out what the story is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,262 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    It enhances your visibility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    It’s also beneficial for having the rear lights turned on tbh

    Parking lights should probably be on most of the time anyways, especially in winter and if there is no drls

    Or conspiracy from bulb manufactures to sell more lights ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You could be taking greater care by having your dipped headlights on and be more visible to all others.

    It's recommended by the RSA.

    "If your vehicle is not fitted with daytime running lights, you should drive with your dipped headlights on during the daytime as they can help reduce the number of deaths and serious injuries on our roads."

    https://www.rsa.ie/road-safety/road-users/vehicle-components/vehicle-lighting/daytime-running-lights-(drl)

    Maybe speak to your instructor and ask them why they didn't advise this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Also if the car is Scandinavian, they come with DRL as standard because in Scandinavia its dark for large parts of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    I recall living in the UK in the 80s and a fleet manager of some large company stating on radio that the amount of tips and accidents fell dramatically throughout his company when he instructed all his drivers to drive with their lights on constantly.

    I started doing that then and I remember vividly when I came home the amount of Irish drivers who would flash me constantly for doing so and others remarking that I would use extra fuel because of this.

    How times have changed and it's almost a rarity not to see all vehicles lit up now.

    Good to see!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    Fair enough. I suppose my main concern here is that any additional use of the car's functions is another bit of energy off the battery, depreciation etc. and if it's not an essential requirement why use it. I still don't get how a car in broad daylight couldn't be visible to all road users without headlights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,482 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Dip headlight use on a modern car uses such a negligible amount of power that you would be hard pressed to notice it. 30w for all lights, front and rear, would be normal enough.

    Only cars with halogens use significantly more, but that is still likely ~130w or so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I still don't get how a car in broad daylight couldn't be visible to all road users without headlights.

    Here in Co. Roscommon we haven't had a day of "broad daylight" since about august. Even now at 1pm Ive the lights on in the house because otherwise it'd be too dark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You're really not getting this are you, or are you just being contrarian for the sake of it?

    It's to make the car more visible to all road users and pedestrians alike. I wouldn't be worrying about the tiny wattage used by lights in terms of depreciation. I suppose you drive with the radio and heaters off too as these are not essential requirements?

    You complain others are being snotty and continue with the "I still don't get how…" nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    I'd fog lights on yesterday coming through Loughglynn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,987 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Because we are all human and the brain prioritizes what it wants to see. That might be a flashy car over instead of silver ordinary car thats at approaching from awkward angle from your line of sight.

    Lots of blind spots in a car and in the human brain. It can block out stuff in error. Lights help with that.

    Even if you don't believe that to be true you should just accept that's its true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,672 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    See and BE SEEN. No brainer. :-P



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Deagol


    There is actually some evidence that having headlights on during the day obscures other road users such as motorcyclists, cyclists and pedestrians as it can be hard to see past the glare.

    The drop in accidents between cars and other larger motor vehicles was matched by a slight rise in accidents in other categories in some early studies I saw back in the early noughties. (MAG Ireland, the motorcycle campaign group were trying to block it as I think in Austria there was a significant rise in accidents but I could be misremembering the country).

    Later studies seemed to have reversed that but looking at the methodology used I'm not wholly convinced. My own personal experience is that people walking on the roads in low light but not after dusk are much harder to see.

    Not sure what other people's personal experience is?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    And here we have why the carnage on our roads is so bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Paul_798


    Daytime running lights are compulsory on new cars in the EU since Nov 2014.

    If a car is equipped with DRLs it's an NCT fail if they are not working.

    https://www.rsa.ie/road-safety/road-users/vehicle-components/vehicle-lighting/daytime-running-lights-(drl)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,759 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Don't assume that everyone else is paying attention.

    A pedestrian about to step off the kerb is much more likely to see you out of the corner of their eye if you have headlights on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,759 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Regarding parking lights, there is a hint in the name.

    They are not bright enough for moving vehicles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Some of our modern day road users need it so they can glance up from their phones and see the lights of oncoming traffic easier and lose as little screen time as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Everlong1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    That makes sense to me. As does other comments about some people not paying enoughh attention like pedestrians stepping off the kerb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    NEWSFLASH: Person on discussion board causes outrage by starting discussion and asking genuine questions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,759 ✭✭✭blackbox


    you don't seem to be giving much consideration to the answers you received.



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