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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,104 ✭✭✭✭kowloon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭kyote00


    he also mentioned that he is very good at ship design…. Expect mushroom shaped turrets , gold flake pin stripes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 304 ✭✭Roald Dahl


    It really is quite remarkable how regularly the likes of Bill Clinton, by all accounts innocently, and indeed Jeffrey Epstein are appearing in the Trump Files.

    Release the lot!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    No, it’s far more insane than that.

    There is an argument for resurrecting the CG(X) class, but the only reasonable thing I can see about this yoke is that someone probably likes Star Trek given the name of the ship. I mean, twin wing Mk45s and what looks like the old Zumwalt 155? Just how big is this thing?

    On the one hand, I can see Trump giving an instruction to the Navy saying “I want a proposal for a major surface combatant, the successor to the Iowas” and then the Navy coming up with something unexpected, but I would find it astonishing if an actual naval designer was anywhere near this.

    Given the Navy’s track rate on trying to make anything like a new ship in the last twenty years, the chances of this thing cutting steel are between negligible and bugger-all. They need to fix their frigate problem first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,104 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Trump says the design work has been going on for a while. It'll be the first battleship built since 1994, apparently. I think he may not understand what decommissioning means.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Navy’s website has details…

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    Overshadowed by the oddity of this ship, there was the odd sensible comment. The partnership with Hanwha of Korea makes sense for Frigate manufacturing, as does the reopening of the Philadelphia shipyard.


    As an aside, the Army is revealing its new tank at the Detroit Auto Show next month (odd choice, I know). For the record, the design long pre-dates Trump and he has had nothing to do with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    What's the more implausible project, the Navy getting a functional railgun or the Army actually delivering on a major vehicle program? Expecting the M7 to be cancelled in the next year or so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Reminds me of the Irish Passports for Sale scheme in the early 1990s.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I don't know if I'm quite as cynical about the M7 program as some, but i can see that getting canceled. However unless the M1E3 genuinely fails to work, I don't see it getting nixed. There is a definite need for it, most of the design work has been done for a while, and there are no viable alternatives. If the Army keeps 5.56 for all, it's OK, but the current tank has reached its limit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    You may be right with respect to the need for a new platform, but now often have the Army gone through lengthy evaluation processes, only to renege and steal ideas to incorporate into upgrades.

    The M7 is a mess, a testament to the ill effects of letting Sig gain a monopoly on small arms programs. The M277 was a superior design, and used ammo that actually for the remit of the desired weight savings. The calibre is all wrong. Too heavy, over gassed, designed against an imagined threat that doesn't even exist in any real sense. The AARs of units at NCT becoming combat ineffective after a short period of battle after running out of ammo, doesn't spark hope.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The Trump administration suspended leases on Monday for five large offshore wind projects that are under construction off the U.S. East Coast over what it called national security concerns, sending shares of offshore wind companies plunging.

    One argument they are using is that windfarms would be vulnerable to swarms of drones. So they are saying its a national security issue.

    The suspension was the latest blow for offshore wind developers that have faced repeated disruptions to their multi-billion-dollar projects under U.S. President Donald Trump, who has said he finds wind turbines ugly, costly and inefficient. State officials, Democratic lawmakers, offshore wind companies, and industry trade groups slammed the move as unjustified.

    The pause will affect Danish energy firm Orsted's Revolution Wind and Sunrise Wind projects, Avangrid and Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners' Vineyard Wind 1 project, Dominion Energy's Coastal Virginia Offshore Wind, and Equinor's Empire Wind 1 project, according to the statement.

    Shares in Orsted traded down more than 12%, with Dominion and Equinor also trading lower.

    Dominion said the suspension will threaten grid reliability for its Virginia customers, including military bases and data centers powering artificial intelligence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,420 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    I can't imagine too many of the nice immigrants from Denmark wanting to move to the US after the Orsted moves, nevermind Greenland. Like Putin, Trump remains a master strategist.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Ah Manic, you are giving Donnie far too much credit to expect him to know words like «Surface Combatant» or to even know where «Iowa» is on a map of the US…let alone realise that it’s also the name of a Class of vessel.

    When it comes to anything naval, I expect the following:

    «I want a Big Beautiful Warship…the Biggest…with the most guns…Huge! And I want it to be called the Trump Class»

    I really didn’t expect a USS Donald Trump to be on the list of stupid self-centred crap he’d pull…but I really wouldn’t put it past him.

    On reflection a «Trump Class» warship reminds me yet again of Nineteen Eighty Four, and the «Big Brother Heavy Bomber» of Oceania. Yet another thing that needs a rename when America gets its head screwed back on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    This is like when Homer designed a car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,318 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    A damning review of Trump's battleship plans - hopefully these will progress the same as the Arc and the ballroom and will be developed with the same enthusiasm by the builders. Trump class! eyeroll. Starts at 2 minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭ollaetta


    It's like a never ending freaky Advent calendar. You open the little door every morning to check what new batshit he came up with while we were sleeping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,346 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    While I appreciate a head of state who doesn't put his country's military at risk as a policy, the reverse is also true when that person comes out with "we need" and "they say" statements as a pretext for future use of the military to take over a friendly country's, an ally, territory by force of arms. The very least that can be said about Trump's latest verdict on Greenland's future is that Trump is switching from a passive aggressive position to one of direct military action against that friendly country, that he is trying to persuade himself of the righteousness of what some warmongering gits in his Admin team have suggested to him from the back seats.

    Appointing another Special Envoy, this one to Greenland, is akin to something from another century, a Plenipotentiary-general as it were. If he goes ahead with this nutty idea, he will have opened the door to regime change being an acceptable idea where it comes to his position in the U.S, to remove a warmonger from power for warring on a neighbour without justification. I don't see there being any credible justification for Trump's position at all.

    His other idea of upping the capability of the U.S Navy with new ships is more of the same, chest-thumping by him, when his description of the current U.S Navy warships is strange as he is deploying the same ships off Venezuela in martial operations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    That is all exactly the kind of behaviour I'd expect from the recipient of the FIFA Peace prize.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    In the event of the US under Trump taking over Greenland how do posters think Europe would react. No military response, I know, but would European countries impose sanctions etc in response.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    I'm no expert but I'd guess Europe would have a flurry of meetings between member states, condemn the US, wring their hands and that would be pretty much it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,763 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Denmark should call on support from its NATO allies to repel the invader.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Arra sure the USN will just buy the Japanese Rail Gun 😉
    In defence of the USN's rail gun cancellation, I would say that even a functional rail gun of the design proposed for Zumwalt has issues that make it unsuitable for USN service.
    The USN is an expeditionary force that operates around the world and often remote from heavy repair and overhaul facilities.


    Carrying a Rail Gun, capacitors and associated equipment takes up a huge amount of space and power generation for a weapon that requires huge support and in its USN version, offers 100-120 shots before needing barrel replacement and precision realignment.
    That's versus 3000 shots or so for a standard 5' gun, whose barrel can be swapped out easily and even underway if necessary. (Rare but doable in extremis)

    Japan's rail gun is smaller, it's also intended for use on ships that are based in their home islands with immediate access to shipyards and high tech support. It allows for use as both a missile interceptor and long range fires and if nothing else?
    Japan is IMHO probably still preeminent in materials science and can manage to get a smaller calibre weapon than the USN version into operation.

    Now, onto whatever brain fart pushed the USN into letting Trump promulgate whatever the fúck this Trump class is, as a "battleship" 🤦
    The more I read about it's intended armament and in particular it's crewing requirements?
    The more I see a Hitler type fascination with bigger, louder, heavier weapons.
    The lad seems fascinated by Wunderwaffe.

    Now, the other thing to point out regarding the "Trump" class, is that it's adoption has very likely led to the cancellation of the USN's frigate programme and heaped further pressure onto their already under pressure fleet.


    The USN needs ships, it needs VLS and it needs a widespread underway reload system for those VLS.
    If China is the opponent it sees itself at war with in the near/medium term?
    It also needs the FA-XX to be progressed as a matter of urgency.
    The crew numbers proposed are massive, 650-800 per ship!
    In an era when all Navies are struggling to recruit and are moving more and more towards automation.
    Indeed South Korea & Japan are leaning into heavily automated and minimally crewed Arsenal ships as a force multiplier.
    The USN if it follows this lunacy?
    Would seem to think itself immune to global reality.

    The best analogue I can think of regarding Trump and his "Battleships"?
    Is Hitler crowing about the Bismarck, waffling about the Maus and using his Wunderwaffe to distract from the Russian steamroller!

    I wonder if Trump might be trying to distract from anything?🤔



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Start offloading US debt and stocks for a start. It wouldn't take much to bend the needle against the US economy and the Dollar. Yes, it would hurt Europe, but it would hurt the US more. The longer MAGA are in charge the more the US Dollar will start to look shaky and that's before we look at the horrific levels of debt the US has and is getting much worse under Trump, even more than the usual Republican government negative effects on the US economy.

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    Plus the surest way to unite otherwise independent entities is to threaten them as a whole and the Trump admin. have directly stated that they threaten and want to interfere in the internal politics of European nations and break the EU. Never mind talking about annexing Greenland and Canada. US social media has been weaponised to this end, Musk's Twitter the most daftly blatant about it. Barely a peep about doing the same to China and of course not a peep about Russia.

    This effect goes double when you do it to once "friends" interests and allies. Tends to sting much more.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,661 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Europe really needs to start poaching from the brain drain that's happening in the US too. Research in particular has plenty jumping ship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,382 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    There's no point given Europe's structural problems and the soaring cost of living in a lot of countries. A lot of Americans would find the inability to speak the native language a serious problem for many places, especially France.

    Here in the UK, wages are infamously sh*t while the cost of living in the "golden triangle" of Oxford, London and Cambridge is soaring. I've even looked into moving back to Ireland and there are so many places where there is either nothing or whole houses for thousands a month.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Yeah it is pretty threatening (this "Greenland envoy" being appointed by Trump). It smacks of appointing their governor-in-waiting for when the American "little green men" go in to create facts on the ground later or something. You'd wonder what the f-ck the Danish govt. makes of it all and what is being said behind closed doors - they were if irc one of the most staunchly pro US countries in the EU along with likes of ourselves! The US has gone nuts, and I see no way it will end well for any of us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Came across this earlier and thought it was brilliant......

    I don’t know about you, but I’m sleeping a lot easier these days, knowing that the ship of state is being captained so beautifully. It may surprise you, but I confess that I was worried for a while, despite the American people electing the GREATEST president in our history, not once, but three times, even if the black-robed CRIMINALS in the courts and the corrupt U.S. Congress STOLE one of those victories in 2020.

    I know, I know, there was nothing to worry about, given how much cheaper everything has gotten at the store. Okay, so prices haven’t actually dropped, but what’s a little inflation among patriots? Even if the he didn’t end the Russian-Ukraine war on his first day like he promised, Nato’s secretary general says that only tens of thousands of people have died there this year. And the President hasn’t started any new wars. Well, except for the little one around Venezuela. Oh, and that bombing of Iran. The tariff battles are going great, even if companies and farmers say it doesn’t feel that way. What do they know?

    Thank goodness the President is making sure that policy is guided by science, expertise and facts. Look, the man is a stable genius. He told us so, using those exact words, the last time around. He had that uncle who taught at MIT and he keeps acing the cognitive tests and that MRI at Walter Reed, so he must be smart. (I kind of wonder why they keep giving him those tests, but I’m sure there’s nothing the matter because he said so.)

    But what really made my heart soar like an eagle was his Truth Social post on December 9th, where he laid it all out. His brilliance, his dedication, his command of that ’ol ship of state. The golden era is upon us. Just look at the classy new Liberace-died-and-gone-to-heaven decorations in the part of the White House that hasn’t been torn down.

    “There has never been a President that has worked as hard as me,” he began his post that night. “My hours are the longest, and my results are among the best. I’ve stopped Eight Wars, saving many millions of lives in the process, created the Greatest Economy in the History of our Country…and created an ‘aura’ around the United States of America that has led every Country in the World to respect us more than ever before.”

    Don’t you just love him? Isn’t he the sweetest? Such a mensch. He went on like that for nearly 500 words, talking about the “top” Walter Reed doctors, “all of whom have given me PERFECT Marks. Some have even said they have never seen such Strong Results. I have been told that few people have been able to ‘ace’ this Examination and, in fact, most do very poorly, which is why many other Presidents have decided not to take it at all.”

    This is all very usual and reassuring, don’t you think? Reminded me of the 158 thoughtful and unifying posts he made over the course of three hours on the night of Dec. 1st. One of them was a repost that called him “The greatest president ever to live.” If only Abraham Lincoln had done that, would there even have been a Civil War? Be honest, the South wouldn’t have dared.

    Come what may from the radical left lunatics, I’ll never forget the leadership he showed at Charlie Kirk’s memorial service, when he told tens of thousands of mourners in Arizona, “I hate my opponent and I don’t want the best for them.” And, especially, the heartfelt decency he showed to the family of Rob and Michele Reiner and all of their friends and fans the other day after they were murdered.

    Donald Trump — for we must call his name, and honor it, though you may already have guessed of whom I speak — said that Rob Reiner, director of “The Princess Bride” brought his murder on himself, “reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME.” Later, asked if he meant it, the president told reporters that Reiner was, indeed, “deranged” and “very bad for the country.”

    As you can see by now, dear reader, the preachers are right, Trump has been touched by God. He was saved from an assassin’s bullet, that day in Butler, Pa., as so many soothsayers said, to lead us out of the darkness and into the light. Did they also say something about lemmings? I’m trying to recall.

    This is all entirely NORMAL!!!!

    So, sleep tight, and the next time you’ve got jitters, maybe because unemployment just hit a four-year high or your health insurance costs are about to double or your kindly neighbor just got deported, remember that the stable genius is in charge and, as he said in his Rob Reiner post, “the Golden Age of America is upon us, perhaps like never before.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,562 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,562 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Department of Justice doing some lame attempts at fire extinguishing...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,421 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Handwritten letter in the files from Epstein to Larry Nassar (the doctor for the US Olympic gymnastics teams who was jailed for assaulting/abusing many of his patients), days before Epstein killed himself;

    ​​Dear L.N.

    ​As you know by now, I have taken the "short route" home.

    ​Good luck! We shared one thing... our love & caring for young ladies and the hope they'd reach their full potential.

    ​Our president also shares our love of young, nubile ​girls! When a young beauty walked by he loved to "grab snatch," whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system.

    ​Life is unfair.

    ​Yours

    J. Epstein

    https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00035768.pdf



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