WFH is dead and buried. Right to WFH bill is pointless

Are there not legal or regulatory, or confidential issues with someone using their own device for work in human services?

I would be very concerned about someone using their own personal device in such a situation.

I think blended work is a great innovation. I have never said otherwise. That does not mean there are no issues; go and dig out the Irish Times article about work from home; it's illuminating.

If someone is calling you then I could say was finishing something important and realised I could ring that person back. Was dealing with someone else and would ring them back. Simples. Now prove I wasn't

No legal issues with accessing a work network on a personal laptop. You're logging in remotely to a server (using Citrix software) and once you're in, you cannot access your personal drive or files. Any sites blocked by the employer are still blocked when you log via a personal device. We had limited remote working before Covid (one day a week) and all staff had to use their own PC/laptop then. The employer only paid for work laptops once it became evident that we'd need to be at home for quite a while.

These no need to guess based on personal anecdotes. Theres national data on these things.

Deleted user but the only thing more surprising than the content of this post is the number of people who thanked it.

This one post shows you aren't fit for your role (if you were a manger of some sort) and will in the long term cost the company more money and lost time than anything.

This kind of attitude drives away the good workers (because they are good and will have options) and leaves you with the not so good workers. Stuck in a constant cycle of re-hiring for positions that could have remained filled if there was a tiny bit of common sense in the management department.

Boards users are not representative of the general population.

Yet the limited people that you speak to are?

Your anecdote doesn't prove anything. If you believe that it does then I'll give you mine from the perspective of a person in their early 30's. Every single person I know has a laptop with many also having a desktop.

There is a big difference between flexibility, which is really helpful for family life, versus the employer being expected to suit them and their lifestyle.

When I was in work, it was a big no-no to use your own personal devices for work, except maybe for a Zoom meeting if you were at home.

Some companies might be ok with personal devices. Its not a always a no no.

The Employer is bound by the same market forces as employees. If they have no problem getting or retaining staff they don't have to offer any incentives. If they can't then they will have to. Likewise a employee can move to where they get the best incentives if its available. Vote with their feet.

The modern employer treats people as disposable. Thus employees treat employers as disposable. You reap what you sow.

I was talking to someone in State Street in Kilkenny, she was telling me they are looking for (demanding I assume) staff go back into the office 4 days per week from march next

https://www.businesspost.ie/companies/state-street-calls-irish-staff-back-to-office-four-days-a-week/-article in the Business post about this

I’ve never worked somewhere that didn’t allow personal devices be used for work. That’s covering both private and public sector. I’ve always had email and teams/zoom/google for business access on my personal phone (expected to have it installed by one employer in particular) or could log into emails/teams etc from my personal laptop. I’ve had file access in all places also with vpn years back but no vpn needed even in my previous and current places of employment just direct cloud log in. Never had citrix always stuff running natively on machines.

Communal budget accommodation doesn't scream holiday atmosphere to me.

That said these days maybe it's the smarter way to travel. Smarter way to work for that matter. Everything is so expensive.

I can confirm that it happens in the private sector. I was also quite surprised - but think they weighted up the legal risks, vs the cost /risk of providing company phones to everyone.

I don't use my personal devices for work at all.

I am definitely old because I've been fooled by that in the past to do free product support.

New hires just refuse to use personal devices for work.

Also, for security reasons it's a big no no.

I've actually found security requirements are the only reason the company updates it's product with the latest libraries and tech and with the tools it provides to staff.