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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 12.02.26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Quags


    Seen that this morning. 18million is what seems to be the paper price



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,145 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I have to agree with Amorim here. Too many players going around thinking they are due something from the club these days.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    wolves are shocking.

    leeds and burnley are newly promoted.

    villa away tough.

    newcastle home tough, lessened by their injuries.

    9 points should be the absolute minimum we expect, and more importantly, what the brains trust should also expect.

    setting aside my expectation….what do i think we actually do cos thats an entirely different thing: 7 or 8 points.

    at least you paint the last 7 results how they were - terrible IMO. others like to say undefeated in 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,771 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    its so true, and does bear out on the pitch.

    arrogance also plays a part, and a lack of leaders.

    the attitude of i've made it, i can just turn up and play cos i'm better. they need to be fighting all the time, clawing for those inches.

    its not just the academy players though, and amorim needs to change that mentality.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    my bad. 1 loss in 10. think i've wiped that disaster from my memory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Was talking to someone last night and said exactly the same thing, no losses in 10 before correcting myself regarding Everton. I think I would like to forget that match.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    Amorim has said a few times now about how his door is always open but nobody is coming to see him, to me this is quite telling.

    I think he’s frustrated that players that may have concerns about their role, playing time or anything else should come and speak to him directly rather than airing frustrations indirectly or through social media or other channels (T-Shirts)

    Of course there’s no evidence that Kobbie knew anything about his brothers plans to stir things up (I hope not) the other night but it would have been nice to have seen him distance himself from the whole thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    He somewhat undermines his own point that his door is open to young players to come talk to him, but no one is doing so by relaying the offer at a press conference.

    Ideally, problems will be handled inhouse with players talking to the manager. But we have this public discourse now where its not being handled inhouse, but as a weird public dialogue through press conferences, posts on social media and people posing in t-shirts. The young players need to grow up obviously, but Amorim is contributing to it too by entertaining these questions - he is grown man, what is his excuse?

    Praise publicly, criticise privately is leadership basics. Amorim gets himself in trouble for talking far too openly and honestly with a media that is not there to be his friend or help the club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    Yes he’s definitely far too open with the media… couldn’t imagine Alex Ferguson entertaining a lot of the questions Amorim is happy to take.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,145 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    There's clearly been a rotten culture at the club for a long time and I've no issue with the manager calling it out.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,563 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    It's been going on far too long. The sense of entitlement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    In many companies, employees have a standing 1-to-1 meeting with their boss scheduled at fixed intervals (every week, month or whatever). Check in on goals (pardon the pun), progress and a feedback loop.

    Do they not do this at football clubs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Apparently not. Even if there isn't a regular check-in, I find it weird that Amorim and Mainoo haven't had a conversation (what Amorim says) given all the noise in press conferences over the past few weeks/months. The obvious move is for Amorim to 1) stop entertaining questions from media on Mainoo and 2) call Mainoo in and ask if there is a problem and sort it out privately. They shouldn't need the media to pass messages between them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    No thanks, ive no issue with any players going to Saudi, but he had many a suitor no doubt and the money talked, wasn't the football for him (Might of been the Portuguese contingent with Ronaldo there) imo.

    Forget all that anyway, I just don't think he'd be able for the league now coming in. 2 years ago in the PL was a lot different, the 'lower' teams are a lot better now and the league is more demanding.

    IIts Fkin tough for UTD now.

    Seen players come in from top 5 leagues in the world and struggle, the Saudi league is miles below them.

    Was 26, 2 years there now its not good at his age. Its where you go to retire, or America. Bringing him back to the PL he'd get destroyed imo.

    (Sorry keeponhurling man, just went on a rant)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    I reckon Bruno goes next summer, just to get the most value out of him. He'll be 33 in September.

    The club should be looking to get maximum value from the player and the summer will be the time to do it.

    With Mainoo, in all honestly after the stunt by his brother and him behind it by reports then bye bye. Thats good money to reinvest as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    I posted yesterday a vid of ben Jacobs saying kobbie knew and endorsed the t shirt wearing.

    Saying a door is always open and it being actually open are 2 different things. If the door is always open, why so much crap going on?

    Hopefully media will ask those questions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭SteM


    I have zero confidence in anything Ben Jacobs come out with regarding United tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,145 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Hopefully the clubs media handler starts to do their bloody job and stop a lot of these nonsense questions from journalists.

    I believe the manager when he says his door is always open but that means someone has to be willing to walk through it rather than post on social media or through their agent/friend/family and that's not something these kids seem willing to do.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,403 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    When he said the door is always open he meant his defence.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    In all honesty if Kobbie does go and we get 70-80+ thats brilliant buisness from utd for a 20 year old.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭SteM


    Who's paying £70m for him, honestly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    Yeah years ago players weren’t afraid to knock on the managers door and have an honest conversation. Not to demand minutes but to understand decisions and argue their case, show a bit of character if you like.

    In modern football today it seems the younger players are so used to having agents or other people speaking on their behalf that they seem to lack the confidence or personality to properly communicate with their managers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Caustic


    Newcastle? Spurs? Chelsea? Liverpool could also do with that profile of players.

    If we were looking at a mainoo at another club we get quoted 100 mil



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,403 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    If one of my staff wouldn't approach me but preferred to just whinge about things in the canteen instead, I would think less of that person.

    If nobody at all is bringing their problems to me, I would take a minute to wonder why.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    "If we were looking at a mainoo at another club we get quoted 100 mil"

    That's because as a club United have been getting their pants pulled down around their ankles and everyone laughing at them for god knows how long when it comes to buying players.

    Mainoo will have two years left on his deal in the summer. Will have spent the season picking splinters from arse and a manager that doesn't fancy him. Why are clubs going to be rushing out and throwing money at United for Mainoo.

    Can see him going somewhere like Napoli with a decent sell clause in case they end up flipping him for double the price. If United get £50M for him they'll be doing very well given how things with Mainoo have went lately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Charlie69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,403 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Garnacho is surely the benchmark here. Another highly rated young player, not wanted by the club, still years left on his contract. But also a goalscoring attacker, which are always more expensive.

    We got 40m for him. We won't get more than that for Mainoo.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭SteM


    Yeah, Liverpool would give us £70m for him alright. 👍



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