General British politics discussion thread

The response to the ban from the UK govt was dangerous and utterly pathetic but I suppose you don't bite the hand the feeds you.

Why were Macabi fans singled out and not AS Roma (who has over 100 fans arrested in France) and Young Boys, who were also accepted as some of the most violent fans in Europe?

Was it because with Macabi fans, there was also the very likely chance violence against them as well as by them?

MTA were due to play in Birmingham and that is why they were 'singled out' by the police in Birmingham. The only football hooligan group ever to get the support of the UK govt - I wonder why? weird behaviour

Perhaps AS Roma fans were not punished similarly as they were not chanting in English, about killing kids, sexual assaults and targeting Muslims. Maccabi fans had the perfect opportunity in their next away game after the Villa game to show the ban was unjustified but we all know about the appalling behaviour that they displayed in Germany.

Maccabi fans proved they shouldnt have been allowed to the Villa game. Any decent minded neutral observer would agree with that. They had their chance to prove their detractors wrong but now justifiably have received the UEFA ban.

and you’re a neutral observer are you?

At the time, it was very apparent that WM Police didn’t want Maccabi fans there because the threat was two ways and knew if was going to cause a huge flash point among the Muslim community, as it did in Amsterdam where there were numerous attacks on Maccabi fans throughout the night.
if fans are prevented from travelling to the UK (or anywhere for that matter) because there is a threat to them, then it is right that the government helps to ensure their safety, otherwise you just let the thugs win.
in this case and in hindsight, Maccabi fans got what they deserved so **** them, but the government didn’t intervene (however badly they went about it) because they are in the pay of the Zionist lizard people, they did it because they had an obligation to.

Maccabi fans did get what they deserved. Really scraping the barrel if you take the time to defend violent yobs who do nazi salutes and chant racist slogans and about sexual assaults.

Also i think you shouldnt compare Maccabi fans with other Israeli club fans, just like AS Roma fans are not an example of the average Italian club fans.

Macabi Tel Aviv have possibly the highest amount of thuggish fans in the world.

while police forces can generally facilitate other football clubs with high levels of hooliganism, Macabi Tel Aviv fans are so violent and sectarian that the only way to deal with them is to keep them out as police can't facilitate them.

from all that i have saw, any trouble involving them is started by them.

Some nonsense. If they didnt go to an illegal protest for a terrorist group knowing they could be arrested they wouldn't have been arrested. I dont think any infants were arrested so adults should know better. Its the very fact that these adults cant comprehend why they got arrested that means they cant be trusted to be released.

The exact same as our own Enoch.

just fact i'm afraid.
they went to a perfectly legal protest for a non-terrorist organisation.
while palestine action are a proscribed organisation, they were only proscribed on the basis of politics and are not in the court of public opinion a terrorist organisation.
they were always going to be arrested as the british government are doing all they can to criminalise those who are against israel's genocide and general behaviour across the middle east.
they are on remand over the legal timeframe so are being falsely imprisoned because their imprisonment is not in accordance with the law now.

holding them on remand over the legal limit.
yes the british government are supporting a genocide and facilitating it in every way possible, while providing full cover for the genocidal state.
they had to break the law to attempt to stop such facilitation of a genocide as it's a legal obligation for states to do all they can to prevent genocide from taking place hence all they did was some criminal damage which is not terrorism.

Again the fact all that the eejits on remand can do is ramble about genocide and Israel and flatly refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions is why they are sitting in a cell. They need to grow up and accept that their own decisions have consequences. Not whatabout there way to getting whatever they want.

The "draw attention" trope. Do you think their stunts were the first time literally anyone heard about the Gaza war?

No they can have their hunger strike. The wailing about them then needing medical intervention is daft. They chose not to eat did they think the could photosynthesise? If you go on hunger strike it has consequences. Again they chose to go on hunger strike but seemed baffled that choice had consequences.