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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,384 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Wouldn’t be the 1st ‘Kursk’ they lost either….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭redshift-rider


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    This button starts the engine and this one activates the ejector seat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Russia rejecting Christmas ceasefire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yes they do. The China trade is their biggest source of foreign income, most of it from hydrocarbons.

    Orc oil exports.jpg

    Find the biggest artery and cut it, for quickest and most effect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Lovely. Reminds me of Bond's DB7 ejector seat in Goldfinger.

    Which likewise got rid of a deadsh​it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    That almost looks comical, like a movie (as mentioned above).

    It also reminds me of this mission in Hitman 3:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,384 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Copying this from the Maritime - What's Out There thread…. as we have a few interesting ships off our coast!!

    A couple of dodgy customers off the west coast, one coming from Russia and the other from Israel, destination; 'for orders'. One flying the Ghanaian flag, the other one the Cameroon flag. Both well known flags of convenience…

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:9284235/zoom:8

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:711963/zoom:8

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Shocking image of Odessa, where all power and heating was wiped out a couple days ago with no prospect of being restored, anytime soon. It's like London in WW2 during the blitz.

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    Some time ago I read a theory that the noted non-use of Flamingos was because they were being kept as a threat so the Orcs would lay off targeting power and heating, where they would be used in retaliation to turn off power and heating in Moscow. That theory I would say is busted, so they are likely being stockpiled for something else.

    I know what I'd use them for; I hope when they are unleashed that it's epic and delivers a lot of pain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    It's a curious one, the Ukrainian non-use of Flamingos

    They could absolutely wreak havoc on the Russian economy in a way drones just cannot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Probably because they don't have many of them. Surely nobody believed the production figure of 200 per month?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭midlander12


    I don't see that happening either. I think the current impasse will last for another year anyway. As others have said, Russia can't go like this indefinitely. Ukraine OTOH have the motivation to fight because their choice is between no tomorrows at all or maybe tomorrow in another year of two i.e. not a choice. In the meantime, they and more particularly the Europeans need to hold their nerve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,901 ✭✭✭threeball


    I wouldn't wipe my arse with a US security guarantee. Worse than useless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Putin will want the rest of the Donbass. Zelensky won't agree to it.

    That will be the major impasse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Seen this getting reported by a few places. Where is Russia getting this force from or it's either a mix of Belarusian forces and conscripts.

    Id say the true number is far lower.

    If the force this size exists, I'd be worried they'd make another plat for Kyiv

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,917 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    It's really the Ukranian people won't go along with it. They would have to vote for any land loss. I could see a de facto acceptance of the fact that some lands are occupied. Similar to us in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Cheeky and brilliant.

    Some Ukrainian lads got hold of an unexploded Orc FAB-250 bomb, strapped it to a ground drone, drove it up to an Orc command post and blew it up.

    From the photo I'd guess this was a few months ago.

    FAB-250.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,619 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Twenty-something.

    I reckon the forced relocation of so many Ukrainians to so many EU member states will accelerate the accession process. All of these "ex pats" will have had a chance to sample day-to-day life in the EU, and the rest of us will have had plenty of time to get over any nonsensical idea of a "flood" of immigrants by granting Ukraine membership seeing as the flood has already happened. So there'll be little room for any of the hysterics that we've seen in the past.

    Besides, it's conceivable that the EU will evolve into a two-tier structure, with any current member state that engages in feckineejitery being relegated to the second division, where they can rub shoulders with countries that want to fully sign up to the European project but need time to deal with "legacy issues" or other problems. If the Hungarians are stupid enough to re-elect Orban, I'd love to see their place at the top table being handed to Ukraine instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,066 ✭✭✭thomil


    They don't have SSNs in the Black Sea. Nuclear submarines are designed for deep ocean environments where they can take advantage of the enormous endurance afforded to them by their reactor. The Black Sea is a very constrained operational area, and a relatively small one as well. Conventional submarines (SSKs) like the Kilo class are more than sufficient for operations in the Black Sea. In addition, Kilo class boats can be transferred to and from the Black Sea using Russia's internal waterways. It's nuclear boats are too large and heavy for that.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭riddles


    it may be more accurate to say they have 400k people wearing army uniforms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Seen part of current USA legislation that was signed into law by Trump in 2017 having passed the House and Senate votes by huge majorities:

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    Trump doesn't even follow the laws he brought into force himself so I can't see how any one could trust him in any agreement made in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

    ’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

    ’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I don’t like that phraseology tbh, placing Putin and Zelensky in the same sentence and context. This is Putin’s war, not the Russian people’s and certainly not Zelensky’s. Only one man has the ability to end this war and that’s Putin. Zelensky is constrained by his popular mandate, and despite repeated efforts by disingenuous posters on this thread to suggest otherwise, he still has the backing of the population and, critically, even the acknowledgment of the political opposition. None of that exists in Russia. If the mood in Ukraine dictated it, Zelensky would do a deal. But Ukraine is overwhelming against caving in to the demands of Trump and Putin. **** them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    There is already a mechanism in the treaties since 1998, expanded in 2008, to allow some member states to integrate faster than others. It's called Enhanced Cooperation but has almost never been used. I'm not sure it can be used for defence though which is still a national competence. The Commissions a



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    The orcs have had well over a million men wasted in Ukraine the notion there's 400k to spare on the Belarus border is a fantasy. It's a Potemkin army and does not exist in number and certainly not quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,901 ✭✭✭threeball


    They can't supply the troops they have. Theres no way they can support another 800,000. If they exist and they try to mobilise them I expect they'll be pushing scooters into North Ukraine which by all accounts is mined to the hilt since the first incursion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    I think that Trump is in a much stronger position to end the way , AT ANY TIME , than Putin is. He, not only can end the war almost immediately but he can ‘get’ Putin to leave Crimea and return back to the pre 2014 borders. Done by a suite of decisions such as:-

    (1) Tell Putin that he has given him no option but to bring the war to an end because there is EVERY SIGN that he - Putin - wants to continue it , committing obvious war crimes, no compromising , etc, etc, etc and that he ‘requires him to move back to the pre 2014 boarder

    (2) increase arms supply to Ukr to an adequate level

    (3) provide even more intelligence

    (4) make current sanctions more watertight

    (5) Apply more sanctions which directly hit the Ru economy

    (6) Board ships carrying sanctioned Ru oil like as was done with Venezualian ships and confiscate same

    (7) put more pressure on those countries buying large amounts of gas , oil and coal from Russia to stop the practice or at least massively reduce it.

    (8) Do all of the above in coordination /cooperation with The EU , collision of the willing and other nations that are helping Ukr with ‘aid

    (9) to ‘sweeten the withdrawl / ‘strategic manoeuvre by Ru Trump could offer a financial pact to develop the countries industries, etc, etc, etc, etc.

    The Ru economy would be brought to a halt within days/ Weeks and Ru would withdraw like it did from Afganistan



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trump pressuring Europe not to seize Russian assets.

    Polish PM Tusk confirms the US pressuring the EU 💵🪀🧊NOT to SEIZE Russian FROZEN assets

    "The Americans say: leave these Russian assets alone, because it is difficult to sit down at the negotiating table with Putin and say: 'Let's compromise, but we will take your money'. This is the American argument, which calls for being very careful and not bringing the matter to the brink of collapse," Donald Tusk says as reported by RBC

    "Sometimes it turns out that Americans still take a businesslike approach to this issue... It is difficult to talk about a unified European-American position on this issue," the Polish PM concluded.

    Also retired general Ben Hodges says the US has been pressuring Belgium not to release the assets for Ukraine, because it wants them to go back to Russia, according to him on Silicon Curtain on youtube.

    Russia has 400,000 troops in Belarus. Is this to attack a NATO country?

    Separately, Ukraine making progress along the Vovcha river which straddles Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk. Russia is trying to advance towards Novopavlivka.

    Separately one challenge Russia would have with Novopavlivka is the high ground protecting it from the South.

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    Reports from Ukraine (RFU) on youtube says:

    Here, after a successful clearing operation on the northern bank of the river, Ukrainian forces are starting their next operation to push forward. Despite the Russians anticipating such a move, the Ukrainian command is spearheading the assault using marines and tanks to penetrate the Russian flank deeper.Ukraine’s main objective in this sector is to advance into the Russian-held area and create a credible threat on the flank of the Russian offensive directed toward Novopavlivka.

    The Ukrainians need to escalate pressure in this sector to further erode the Russian effort exactly when the Russian assault has stalled, and Ukrainian units have the chance to turn the tide. In doing so, the Ukrainian command seeks not only to interrupt the tempo of the Russian advance but also to force Russian commanders to reallocate personnel and resources to secure their vulnerable flank, consequently undermining their broader operational posture.

    Novopavlivka holds strategic significance because the settlement is located on both banks of the river. If Russian forces capture even one side, the opposing bank will become considerably more difficult for Ukraine to defend, and, similar to the situation in Ivanivka, any captured ground could provide Russia with an improved crossing point for further offensive operations.

    The main Ukrainian advantage is that now they have full control over Ivanivka, which facilitates the creation of a staging ground for further operations. As the settlement is secured, Ukrainian forces can use it as a crossing point over the Vovcha River and start attacking to the east, conducting disruptive operations against enemy troops and infiltrating their forward positions. Bad weather conditions, such as fog, would also help them get behind enemy lines, as the Russian reconnaissance drones wouldn’t be able to spot them. If we take a look at the topographic map, we can see that the Ukrainian positions on the high ground can also be used to support further Ukrainian counteroffensive operations, providing excellent mortar positions and starting positions for drones.

    However, Ivanivka is on the same level as the Russian positions east of the river, which means that Ukrainian forces will need to assault on even ground, despite enjoying fire support from the elevation behind the village. After being pushed behind the river, Russia now has the advantage of using the river as a natural defensive barrier, protecting its forces against prospective Ukrainian counterattacks by complicating Ukraine’s capacity to reliably sustain its advancing forces.

    Geolocated footage shows how Ukrainian Leopard 1A5 tanks are softening up Russian fortifications by firing their cannons directly into them to destroy the enemy personnel and pin them down while the Ukrainian marines arrive. After the initial raid, the tanks pulled back to the rear to avoid the Russian drones, while the Ukrainian troops started clearing the trenches. Their efforts were supported by a reconnaissance drone, which enabled commanders to monitor the operation in real time and guide the soldiers on the ground, helping them avoid potential ambushes and identify threats not visible from their vantage point. The soldiers maneuvered carefully because the roof of the fortification partially collapsed due to the firepower of the tanks. As the Ukrainian forces descended into the tunnels, they conducted a systematic sweep. As a result of the Ukrainian operation, five Russian soldiers were eliminated, and ten more surrendered, as they realized that no one would help them and they were surrounded. The Russian prisoners of war were subsequently interrogated and escorted to the Ukrainian rear to further increase the exchange fund.

    Overall, the Ukrainian counteroffensive efforts appear to be building on the momentum generated by the liberation of Ivanivka, applying sustained pressure on the exposed Russian flank and complicating further Russian attempts to advance toward Novopavlivka. By consolidating more gains and compelling Russian forces to defend a widening front, Ukrainian marines are not only stabilizing the sector but also shaping conditions that will force the Russian command to divert reserves. As the situation evolves, follow-on Ukrainian actions will be influenced by Russia’s ability to reinforce and maintain cohesion. If Russia’s response remains slow, the current Ukrainian posture could open opportunities for deeper tactical exploitation and more advances in this sector.

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