Israel/Palestine Thread

dmcdona · 11-12-2025 08:32AM

@Cordell - you posted this a few pages back and I asked if you had a source for your statement. Perhaps you forgot about it? An answer would be appreciated.

And it's not a war crime to summary execute terrorists, all the rules that apply to military combatants don't apply to them

Can you provide a source for that please?

Bogey Lowenstein · 11-12-2025 08:39AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UEktrQEqI4g&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WzujZ__vTsE

Bibi is going all out on the propaganda front trying to keep US Christian Zionists on side. Even going so far as to digitally spy on churches and track phones of churchgoers so they can be targeted with pro-Israeli ads and content.

It is no suprise he is going to these lengths, as Carrol said: if they lose the Christian Zionist base in America they are finished, the magic money tree would wither and no more using the US military as their own personal goon.

Cordell · 11-12-2025 08:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061330#Comment_124061330

Why are you so keen on terrorists' rights?

dmcdona · 11-12-2025 09:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061379#Comment_124061379

why are you evading a simple question?

Grayson · 11-12-2025 09:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061379#Comment_124061379

I believe the phrase you're looking for is Human rights.

Cordell · 11-12-2025 09:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061438#Comment_124061438

I believe I don't care about terrorists' human rights.

Rocket_GD · 11-12-2025 09:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061330#Comment_124061330

Don't you remember @Cordell said they're not here to answer questions then comes out with the hypocritical line saying others aren't willing to have a conversation.

you are not here for a conversation, you're here to spill your vile bile.

wildgreen · 11-12-2025 09:56AM

Decision still to be made about Turkey's involvement in the International Stabilisation Force. If they are excluded, it will be the end of the ISF.

Tom Barrack, the US Ambassador to Turkey and Special Envoy for Syria, has publicly advocated for Turkish participation in the international stabilization force (ISF) planned for Gaza, framing Ankara's involvement as essential to the mission's success despite fierce Israeli resistance.

wildgreen · 11-12-2025 09:58AM

Another independent American politician signaling the beginning of the end of AIPAC.

Weeks before primary elections in the United States, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are launching attack ads against representative Ro Khanna and other progressive politicians—a move that could prove counter-productive given the group's rapidly declining popularity.

Khanna, widely considered a strong contender for the 2028 presidential election, is hitting back hard with statements that might have seemed unheard of just a few years ago, when silence was the most common response to such attacks.

"AIPAC just poured money into a series of ads in my district, called me a liar for speaking out about the truth in Gaza," he said in a video address shared on his social media platforms, in which he seemed to turn his response to AIPAC's attack ads into his own campaign promotion, with the video's images then featuring crowds of supporters gathering around him as he spoke on stage.

"They're asking you to disbelieve what you see on your own phone with your own eyes. AIPAC wants to weaken me electorally and prevent me from having a seat at the table in the leadership of our country," he continued.

Strazdas · 11-12-2025 10:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061379#Comment_124061379

A rogue regime (like Israel and Trump's US) can declare that literally anyone is a 'terrorist' and summarily execute them. How long before Trump is killing private citizens on US soil and saying "Don't worry about it, that guy was a terrorist"? It's rapidly heading that way.

Cordell · 11-12-2025 10:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061561#Comment_124061561

It's rapidly heading that way.

It's his fifth year as president, it doesn't look that rapid. Or like it will happened at all.

Again, with you guys Bin Landen would still be alive enjoying his human rights.

ancapailldorcha · 11-12-2025 10:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061605#Comment_124061605

The snark doesn't really land when you can't spell such a short name properly.

The state shouldn't be able to arbitrarily strip people of their rights.

Strazdas · 11-12-2025 10:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061605#Comment_124061605

Look at the extra judicial killings of "terrorists" in the Caribbean. One boat that was attacked recently was heading away from the US and towards South America and yet all the occupants were killed. Very easy for rogue states to claim they are imposing law and order. Virtually every killing carried out by the Israeli regime is followed by "Those people were legitimate targets".

nacho libre · 11-12-2025 10:38AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061102#Comment_124061102

You can keep cribbing about anti semitism in order to deflect criticism of Israeli war crimes, but no one is falling for it. Your claim is as idiotic as someone slamming the Russians for their conduct in Ukraine being accused of russiaphobia. I am beginning to think you know your accusations are bs, but you are so wedded to the ideology of Israeli exceptionalism you just can't help yourself.

Odhinn · 11-12-2025 10:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061379#Comment_124061379

And it's not a war crime to summary execute terrorists, all the rules that apply to military combatants don't apply to them

Could you provide a source for that please?

Cordell · 11-12-2025 10:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061657#Comment_124061657

Stop sealioning, it's a form of harassment and trolling.

Rocket_GD · 11-12-2025 11:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061719#Comment_124061719

Stop ignoring questions and then saying that other posters aren't here for a genuine conversation.

Do you condemn the IDF for their murder of 15 medics and the cover up they attempted?

dmcdona · 11-12-2025 12:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061719#Comment_124061719

It really is a very simple question. Its not sealioning, trolling or harassment to ask that a statement made in a post is corroborated with a reputable source.

If you have a source, provide it.

If not, just say so.

Leg End Reject · 11-12-2025 12:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061719#Comment_124061719

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061822#Comment_124061822

Mod - stop backseat moderation, please report posts if you have an issue with them.

Leg End Reject · 11-12-2025 12:55PM

Mod - @Cordell, do not post in this thread again.

dmcdona · 11-12-2025 03:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061337#Comment_124061337

On the basis of those reports, no-one should be surprised at the allegations (denied) that Israel nobbled the Eurovision votes.

In general, the Israeli Govt. MO is to do whatever it thinks it needs to do to "win". Be that ethnic cleansing, stealing land, consistently ignoring international law and judgements made against them. They are clearly using the events of Oct 7th to wreak their revenge on the Palestinians and grab more land - now emboldened enough to spread that into the West Bank, East Jerusalem, Lebanon and Syria.

In order to garner whatever support they need, they will stoop to any level to make it happen.

In the case of Ireland especially, they quickly realised we're no easy pushover hence the concerted effort to paint us on the world stage as the "capital of antisemitism" and even withdraw their Ambassador. But there are many other countries who support the same position of Ireland so the Israeli efforts have fallen flat on their face.

Many around the world are seeing through the Hasbara and see the antisemitism criticisms for what they are - lies.

It's remarkable to me how the above seems to be reflected in posts here. Defend, justify, counter-accuse, misinform, deflect and when that's not working anymore, just disengage - but throw the odd drive-by post up every now and then.

One final thought and I think I've been consistent in my posting - I have sympathy and I support any and all Israelis (Arabs, Jews, Christians) who are equally horrified at where their leaders are taking their nation. Of course, many are voting with their feet and simply leaving Israel. But those that can't will pay the direct price.

wildgreen · 11-12-2025 04:32PM

Taiwan visit to Israel

https://thecradle.co/articles/taiwanese-foreign-minister-makes-secret-trip-to-israel-report

“Taiwan and Israel share the values of freedom and democracy, and will continue to pragmatically promote mutually beneficial exchanges and cooperation” in the fields of trade, technology, and culture, while welcoming more "mutually beneficial forms of cooperation,” the ministry said in a statement to Reuters.

tayto lover · 11-12-2025 05:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124060829#Comment_124060829

What name is he posting under on Boards ? There's a lot to choose from and I just can't decide.

wildgreen · 11-12-2025 06:18PM

Palestine nil-all with Saudi Arabia at half-time in the Arab Cup 2025 quarter-final. A victory would show incredible resilience by Palestine against ethnic cleansing and genocide.

Update: a late goal in extra-time (116th minute) gave Saudi Arabia a win.

tayto lover · 11-12-2025 06:51PM

And still it goes on unabated. When will this rogue state be taken to task -

https://www.rte.ie/news/middle-east/2025/1210/1548298-west-bank-gaza/

volchitsa · 12-12-2025 12:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124061284#Comment_124061284

Do you have anything to say about the Amnesty International report that has found that Hamas committed crimes against humanity on October 23rd 2023, ie BEFORE Israel's invasion of Gaza in response to the Hamas invasion of Israel?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-12/amnesty-report-accuses-hamas-of-crimes-against-humanity/106133834

Nothing about it on the BBC or RTE of course (well I admit I'm a little surprised at the BBC, but I'd have been amazed if RTE had covered it) - but hey, Ireland's media is not in the least bit antisemitic, just on Hamas' side, that's all.

Rocket_GD · 12-12-2025 12:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124064547#Comment_124064547

You do realise that the majority on here have openly condemned Hamas and the Oct 7th attack?

This however does not justify the war crimes that Israel has inflicted on Gaza and the Palestinian people.

dmcdona · 12-12-2025 01:13PM

Apologies for not posting this yesterday. Like another poster, I'm a little surprised the BBC/RTE have not yet reported this.

In fairness to Amnesty, they are balanced. I've added their opening sentence on their report of Israeli Genocide at the end.

Haaretz straplines

In its first report on Hamas and other Palestinian factions on October 7, 2023 and during the Gaza war, Amnesty International concluded that Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups have committed war crimes and crimes against humanity

The report, in progress since 2024, found that "members of Palestinian armed groups, and, to a lesser extent, unaffiliated civilians" conducted a "widespread and systematic attack directed against a civilian population" including "murder, imprisonment, enforced disappearance; torture; rape, sexual slavery" and other sexual violence.
Amnesty notes that no one has been held accountable for the crimes of October 7 and against the hostages: Hamas and Palestinian groups have not investigated the crimes, nor condemned them. "They have even boasted about some acts that amount to crimes, such as the firing of unguided rockets into Israel," the report states.

"Israel committed genocide in Gaza, including by causing some of the highest known death tolls among children, journalists, and health and humanitarian workers of any recent conflict in the world, and deliberately inflicting on Palestinians conditions calculated to bring about their physical destruction."

dmcdona · 12-12-2025 01:15PM

Apparently, the US don't like UNWRA…

Haaretz:

Trump administration officials have held advanced discussions on declaring the UN agency responsible for Palestinian refugees, UNRWA, a "foreign terrorist organization," two sources told Reuters.

dmcdona · 12-12-2025 01:18PM

Perhaps this will prevent Israel launching an all out offensive and land grab? Or perhaps not.

Haaretz

The Lebanese Army has implemented 90 percent of the cease-fire deal in the area south of the Litani River, Lebanese Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri said. According to Berri, the Army is expected to implement the remaining 10 percent of the agreement by the end of December.

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