Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

With the U.S, the problem is that they've gotten used to the fact that everything Trump, as the great leader, says, is a lie or a distortion of the truth and accept it from him, and his Admin people have taken that lying is normal practice.

American don't really care about foreign policy compared to paying tax at home and cost of living etc… here is the latest Gallup poll

My favourite is

"He praised Hungary and Poland for their track record on migration".

Their track record is to send their young out to be immigrants in all these countries Trump thinks are fuked because of immigrants.

That interview is obviously written entirely by Russia.

i think its just an excuse for Dipso Pete to go off and neck another bottle of JD.

If the mother doesn't have hepatitis b, and does not live a high risk lifestyle, then a newborn baby is at practically zero risk of contracting an illness that is generally spread by sharing needles and sex. They will be screening mothers and administering the vaccine as needed, same as most of the world, including Ireland. It will still be on the childhood schedule and given at 2 months of age, again, in line with most of the rest of the world.

As much as I agree, you're missing the point.

For decades, there has been a concerted effort on the right to roll back the values of the Enlightenment. Fundamentalist Christians in the US have thus established very powerful lobbying groups which have been extremely successful.

Vaccines are no different. The anti-vaxx phenomenon was birthed by UCL researcher Andrew Wakefield (full medical title: Andrew Wakefield). He performed clinical tests which border on child abuse on a tiny amount of children because he owned a patent on a single-dose MMR vaccine. His intention was to discredit MMR so he spread the idea that MMR was too much for infants. It wasn't long before he realised that he could make serious money on the American grifter circuit so that's where he went. This is probably one of the most important articles I ever link to:

https://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5347

This podcast may also be useful:

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/anti-vaxxers-herd-impunity/id1624704966?i=1000659398279

Robert F Kennedy Jr is simply an inheritor to this legacy. In 2019, there was an outbreak in Samoa. A nurse botched injecting two children who sadly died. RFK Jr promptly got involved and lobbied against vaccination. 83 children died.

There are obviously Conservatives who aren't off the reservation. Boris Johnson engaged seriously in funding the development of the covid vaccine here in the UK and was completely correct to support Ukraine in the wake of Russia's invasion of 2022.

However, in America the far right has eaten the right. It began with the tea party in the Republican party and now we have MAGA.

MAGA isn't just a movement for morons. It's much worse than that. It's fascism. Actual fascism. I hesitated to use the word until the coup attempt of 6th January 2021. Scholar of the subject and Vichy France expert, Robert O. Paxton openly referred to Trump as a fascist after this event. It's a fascism for the 21st century, couched in racism, anti-intellectualism, venality, decadence, misogyny, corruption and disturbing allegations involving children. They don't care about real Americans. They don't care about children. Religion is just a useful tool to them. It helps keep everyone in line and provides disincentives to ask questions.

The roots of this are in the anti-intellectualism championed by the American right, aided significantly by people like the late Dick Cheney and other neocons. If people don't ask questions, power isn't accountable and this is the ultimate result.

This is what happens when EU and UK leaders line up in supplication outside the Oval Office, issue invitations for State Visits and call him 'Daddy' FFS, of course he's going to call them weak. Long past time for Europe and others to grow a pair…

My God.... You just know there's lobbying going on there with money/crypto changing hands. What's next a pardon for El Chapo?

Trump referred to President Zelensky as Phileas T. Barnum. As insulting as it gets.

Maybe he thinks the whole war is 'fake news' made up by the Ukrainians to bleed more off the long-suffering American taxpayer. Over on p.ie there were posters more or less arguing this, including claims that the Bucha massacre was basically an elaborate film set.

already let a pile of his family into the US

The SC still have not set a date to hear his appeal in the Jean Carroll case.

When the bill for the ballroom finally comes in, he will stiff the contractors, keep all the donations received and it will end up the tax payers/Govt have to settle in Court.

While I agree, I think Europe needs to think beyond the current 'degenerate'. Can they really rely on an ally that produces such 'leaders'? Mind you, Europe might not be much better itself in a few years at the rate things are going.

No I don't think Trump really thinks Bucha was fake news but he's quite capable of spinning such a yarn for the MAGA crew if it suits him.