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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,534 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Nope actually I was wrong and while this vid takes a while to get going it makes ALOT of sense when you get to the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Reports to-day that Trump says that Zelensky has not read "his" peace plan. How does he know? Coming from such a meticulous reader of briefing documents, this is hilarious (but not funny at the same time)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard


    How anyone can believe this liar is beyond me. Zelensky went through the 28 point peace plan line by line with Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner and also went into great detail with Vance and EU leaders. The problem is his idiot followers will believe him. Trump is setting up to sell out Ukraine.

    The gap between the EU and the USA is widening with every day of the Trump presidency as he and his sychophants move closer to Russia and criticize Europe. The withdrawal of the US from NATO is where this may end up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,209 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    One of Don the Con's peace deals is unravelling as we look on.
    Thailand and Cambodia are on the brink of all out war (Not that they haven't been for the last 6 months or so, despite the US spin).
    Interestingly, were the US to fully embrace its new "security" doctrine?
    This would now likely be a Chinese concern rather than a global one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    The Irish government will likely be strongarmed in the very near future into finally replacing paper ballots with electronic voting machines - easier for the tech bros to fix election results here going forward.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,426 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    relax, voting machines wont be here anytime soon, tis still too soon since the last e-voting debacle here



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,717 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Europe is not the US, and there are a couple of differences.

    Firstly, maybe the European policies are not as good as the US ones are/were. On occasion, we actually do things better on the US side of the water. I'm not a doctor so I don't know if it is true in this case, but it's a possibility worth considering.

    Secondly, if we look at the Hep B decision for this week for example, the larger context isn't necessarily equal. The European schedule basically says "Vaccinate only if the mother is known to be infected", similar to what the new US system is. However, Americans tend to access pre-natal screening for Hep B less often, and unlike some countries with national records systems medical records are not always transferred between doctors. Half of infected people in the US don't know they are infected, a fifth of mothers.

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    On top of that, before the CDC made the vaccination mandatory, over half of Hep B infections in the US came after birth. I don't know what the figure is in Europe, but under European rules in the US (For some reason Denmark is being used as the rules comparator by RFK), this indicates that a significantly large portion of the people who would benefit from the vaccine would not get it. With the risk of taking the vaccine apparently being very low, I'm seeing the change as a net detriment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    While I’m not up on the social media aspect that you’ve outlined, I have read the news and even the official statements and that document that was signed off by Trump was simply chilling- the sooner the EU can stand on its own two feet the better.
    it feels like this is the start of the race to the bottom - US, China Russia controlling the world or something and the US are just speeding up the process to get there - we’re in extraordinary times - where are the democrats coming out and disowning this document? Is this a MAGA version of americas view of Europe or will it become a full on American policy regardless of who’s in power? That’s what I’ll be waiting to see



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Most likely laying the groundwork towards handing Ukraine to Russia - finding a peace solution is obviously too bothersome for Trump at this stage so he’s likely moved on - wouldn’t be at all surprised if his next statement was deal or feic off



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,432 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If Trump backs away from helping Ukraine, will he have to give back the made-up Peace Prize that FIFA gave him?

    Imagine that; a footballing organisation makes up their own Peace Prize specifically to appease you, and then you prove yourself to not even be worthy of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,633 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I think by now it`s obvious that Trump`s only interests in Ukraine are keeping Putin happy for whatever reason and getting his hands on Ukraine`s rare earths.

    If it`s a feic off from him then I don`t see why Ukraine should not tell him the same for their rare earths.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    As have said before my belief is most American voters don't know (or care) very much about the foreign policy of their government.

    Beyond maybe the fate of the "Holy Land", and bombing the Arabs every so often ("they did 911")?

    Also the democrats are possibly like rabbits in the headlights with how fast all this is moving, and don't know what to do.

    Also we know politics in the US is completely corrupted by money/vested interests + regulation there has been captured for a long time now.

    I am not getting the impression that these wealthy interests (e.g. in the US tech sector) have any deep problems with what is happening, or the prospect of an aggressive new US autocracy, hostile to former allies, so long as they can pay to play with Trump, or whatever ghouls will come after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,586 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Some of ye may have seen MTG being interviewed on 60 mins. She appeared relatively moderate until she was checked by the interviewer about her contribution to the violent rhetoric. MTG reverts to type and says the interviewer is "attacking her" by uttering such a statement. Imagine feeling "attacked" because a point was put to you?

    MTG had some choice words to say about Trump, and Trump took that criticism well and remained circumspect.

    Just kidding..

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,427 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    To quote her own words "She needs more sleep".

    Conspiracy theory drivel, she was saying last month that Trump wasnt building a ballroom but a data centre.

    Off with the fairies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,633 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I would not be over concerned at the Democrats not coming out and disowning that document.

    Trump is under pressure from MAGA and Republicans in Congress on Epstein as well as these boat sinkings and Hegseth in general, and every time something similar has happened this administration has flooded the zone with attempts at distracting.

    Democrats now getting involved over this latest document would only be playing the distraction game Trump and some Republican members of Congress want to play imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Thanks for the geography lesson. Having lived and worked in both places (East and West coast of the US, multiple European countries, I actually was aware that they were separate entities.

    Denmark, like most European countries, is ahead of the US on most health metrics, except for spending - I think the US spends more than pretty much any other developed country. The US vaccine schedule has about 4 times as many shots as the Danish one. I don't know the reason for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,432 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Next thing you know she'll be on TV screaming "They're eating the dogs!" like only someone who is off with the fairies would.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It is being suggested today that Trump is also guilty of the supposed mortgage fraud that he is suggesting Letitia James is guilty of and is trying to prosecute her on that basis.

    Apparently he claimed on two mortgage loan properties that they would be his primary residence when neither turned out to be the case.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-mortgage-fraud-florida-principal-residences

    Each of the mortgage documents signed by Trump contain the standard occupancy requirement — that he must make the property his principal residence within 60 days and live there for at least a year, unless the lender agreed otherwise or there were extenuating circumstances.

    But ProPublica could not find evidence Trump ever lived in either of the properties. Legal documents and federal election records from the period give his address as Trump Tower in Manhattan. (Trump would officially change his permanent residence to Florida only decades later, in 2019.) A Vanity Fair profile published in March 1994 describes Trump spending time in Manhattan and at Mar-a-Lago itself.

    The best bit of the article.

    Trump hung up on a ProPublica reporter after being asked whether his Florida mortgages were similar to those of others he had accused of fraud.

    Isn't that effectively pleading the fifth?

    Every accusation is an admission. Love to see Karoline Leavitt pushed on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,426 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    would be lovely if it happened but of course highly unlikely - no doubt there’s a lot of money tied up in this erm, “agreement” with FIFA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Well in my mind they can - if America ditches Ukraine now then yes, US can feic off on any agreement around rare earth minerals etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Unfortunately I’m finding it very hard to disagree with anything in your post- it’s a feicing miserable situation isn’t it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    She gone. Resigned today.

    How long before Lindsey Halligan will join her?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Looks like the conservative majority on SCOTUS will expand Trumps powers to fire members of "Independent Agencies". This would partially overturn Humphrey Executor, a 1935 decision that ruled the president couldnt just hire and fire at will members of the FTC.

    Of course the Federal Trade Commission will probably have a say whether to approve the Netflix takeover of most of Time Warner including HBO (CNN and some other channels are to be separated as Discovery Global next year). Trump commented on it today. Under the rules, a judge will decide. Its rare that conservative judges block mergers and takeovers. Their position since Reagan has been that "vertical takeovers" are okay. However with a rubber stamp SCOTUS, that could change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭tarvis


    and will they bring their European military bases with them? Can Europe tolerate an enemy within?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    Kelsey Grammer calls Trump ‘one of the greatest presidents we’ve ever had’ at Kennedy Center Honors. Oh dear. Cheers and Frasier are my favourite US sitcoms. Thankfully, I can usually separate the art from the artist. I knew Grammer had a lot of personal demons so I guess we can add MAGA to the list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭randomcorkman


    My first thought was "I didn't know Kelsey Grammer was an accused sexual predator". Sure enough.

    In 1995, Grammer was accused of having sex with his child's underage babysitter. A grand jury chose not to indict the actor, stating: "The young woman's delay of more than a year in pressing charges against Mr. Grammer made it difficult to support her claim."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,216 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Seeing a lot of talk that there will be compulsory 3 minute "hydration breaks” midway through each half of every match at the World Cup next summer no matter where the game is or the temperature.

    Gotta get those ad breaks in somehow.

    Post edited by Timberrrrrrrr on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    And now, a word from our sponsors, Gatorade....

    Ugh.



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