General British politics discussion thread

As others have said, a lot can happen between now and 2029 when the next UK election is due to be held.

One other factor that I think will influence the UK election at that time is what happens across the water in the US both in the midterms next year and in the presidential election of 2028.

If conservative candidates who have pushed a lot of the culture war narrative (nationalism/anti-immigration etc) lose, then that will influence how candidates in the UK frame their manifestos. This is particularly the case with respect to the US presidential election which has been fought as culture wars by Trump for the last 3 elections.

And aside from that angle, if the far right conservative sector is in power in the US then they will put their finger on the scales of the UK election. We've seen Trump attempt (and succeed to some degree) to do this in other countries and while it might be not as obvious if he is not involved, it is still something that now is likely to happen. We saw with JD Vance targeting recent EU more liberal ideologies in his speech earlier this year and the recent uncovering of the new US international diplomacy strategy absolutely suggests that they would like to see a very right wing government in the UK. And finally, with respect to this angle, Elon Musk already tried to influence things in the UK in bickering with Nigel Farage and again, he is very capable of getting involved in a negative way to again influence the outcome.

Right now, in late 2025, I expect the outcome of a 2029 UK election will see many parties with enough seats to feel they can influence the forming of a government and the outcome of that could see Reform/Tories trying to make it happen when on the other side Labour/The Lib Dems/The Greens on the other with the outcome being a coalition government. Whether it is Left or Right leaning, remains to be seen.

I found this very interesting when Farage made these comments below.

For me, at that time, he had realised the difficulty of achieving a positive outcome of Brexit and so he suggested this.

It was one of the failures of Corbyn as the opposition leader at the time that he didn't take this point and hammer it in to the 2019 election that Brexit was going to be a failure. Of course he himself wasn't a fan of Europe and didn't possess the ability to advocate for a version of membership that would ultimately have been beneficial for the country while being palatable to his own ideology.

It's baffling to think that the chief architect of the most negatively impact step the UK took since WW2 is the current favourite to be their next PM. And at this point, virtually all the leaders of all the parties acknowledge that it was a bad idea and yet no one is advocating to correct that misstep.

Of all the leaders in and around Number 10 in the last ten years (and this includes Corbyn and Farage) given they were/are a good election from getting the keys, I'd say Theresa May was the only one who appeared to be acting as the leader of the country and what she thought were it's bests interests rather than her own specific motivation.

I remember throughout the negotiation of Article 50, we said on here that she would be ganged up on and discarded as soon as the vultures thought the dirty work had been done, and so it played out.

She had her failings, she wasn't necessarily a motivator of others, but she took the essence of her role seriously.

We must bring the hostages home – every last one

Do you think she was referring to the thousands of Palestinians held without charge in Israeli detention centres? What do you call someone being held against their will while not being charged?

For over 2 years now we've watched UK (and US/German/French/UK etc) officials speak empty words as Reeves has done above that Israel flat out ignores and yet no action is taken to hold them to account.

It is despicable and is infinitely worse than Chamberlains attempted appeasement of Hitler prior to the outset of WW2.

without the Jewish puppet trope

As long as Israel is directly funding UK politicians and those politicians are acting and speaking as they are while Israel continues its actions in Palestine, it is no trope.

That reality has to be accepted by a lot of people who need to examine their conscience.

Try and explain it so instead of just insisting that that is the case.

And before you start, you and another poster brought the term "Jew/Jewish" in to the conversation so let me just remind you that I am speaking specifically about Israeli individuals, organisations, officials and the state.

I am not referring to, nor do I care about the Jewish religion outside from being disgusted at it being used to absolve people of their words and actions.

You don't have to explain why you feel holding elected officials to account for their actions in supporting those who donated to them, but that's twice now in the past week or so you've made pretty black and white statements in this thread but then declined to back them up when challenged on them. Noted.