Tesla Talk 2

The computer power has improved a lot over the time airplane Autopilot has been in market. It's like comparing a 80's and 2025 mobile phones. They both are called mobile phones but that's the only common thing between the two. Also the FSD is continuously automatically learning from the fleet of millions of Teslas and in fairness the technology and the reliablity of it (in US where it's allowed) has moved on a lot over the past two years.

But as you say the current autopilot on planes is a very different animal from 1970's autopilot and the planes themselves since the original fly-by-wire tech have gotten way more complex.

Fully booked 😒 Can't say I'm surprised, surely there must be a huge interest in this. Not everybody has stuck their head in the sand

Impressive

All the cameras in my 2017 Model S were replaced free of charge last year (because the car has FSD). I think the new ones are all heated. I can only imagine that all cars with HW4 have heated cameras from factory

Yes it was upgraded to HW3 for free by the previous owner. Can't believe I have the car for nearly 4 years already

And yes if you already have EAP, I think it is €3750 to go FSD? It's a gambit. You will get all the new hardware for free. And Musk has said that if HW3 is not good enough for unsupervised FSD (basically level 5 autonomous), then he will upgrade the cars for free. It's speculation and we have no idea of time frame, but real FSD could possibly make your car worth more than that spend

Also currently in Ireland (and possibly again in future) you can buy a new Tesla and have the FSD transferred from your old car onto it for free

Yep I hate that too. And they keep offering it now and then, but nothing is certain. Would be a really sweet deal if you bought one of the new basic Model 3 or Model Y standard, that don't even have the basic autopilot

19" wheels as well, wonder what the battery size is / range?

I think good news for owners of the original "premium" MY RWD now.

I'm not sure. The 2022 buyer at 73K was sabotaged by prior upstream actions.

If you want a premium experience, but don't have 51.2k for a new one, then an original Model Y is now more attractive rather than less attractive.

2023 & 2024 pre-Juniper models should now hold up better. Tradebid.ie and the new Donedeal Trade Offer function seems to agree as well.

Musk said yesterday that Tesla is getting comfortable with letting drivers use their phone while driving, using 14.2.1. That's an interesting statement, obviously not legally binding, but a big step towards Tesla taking responsibility for the cars while they run themselves. With regulatory approval, that would be an instant jump from L2 to L4 autonomous driving. I expect that to happen likely next year or in 2027 at the latest

Not sure how that is relevant to my post you quoted? I am pretty sure all of the above applies only to current gen HW4 cars for now. Even HW3 cars (then next newest gen from about 2019 I think?) might not even have the required hardware to do a minimal version of FSD. Musk has said if that is the case, Tesla will upgrade them for free