Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

everlast75 · 01-12-2025 05:20PM

Trump doubles down on the use of the word "retarded".

It is good to see the press keep pushing him on this, his MRI results, Epstein and the Hegseth debacle

threeball · 01-12-2025 05:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033524#Comment_124033524

Why bother with due process, shoot first, establish the facts later. They can find out if they're innocent after they're dead. Hoo raa. Bunch of fcuking apes.

spacecoyote · 01-12-2025 06:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034132#Comment_124034132

They really need that follows up of...would you repeat it now for clarity. Saying it out loud is the only way it has the potential to have an effect

somenergy · 01-12-2025 06:51PM

MAGA, hasset is a tool of the crime family he will not honour the constitution which is the steady demise of american democracy house and senate have gone home

Ozymandius2011 · 01-12-2025 06:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124031770#Comment_124031770

Also reports that Exxon Mobil is involved in the talks according to Scott Lucas on RTE Radio 1.

Second Lady Usha Vance dismisses divorce rumours after shes spotted without her ring.

JD Vance recently said he wants Usha to convert to Christianity.

Also Vance has become close to Charlie Kirks widow, who recently said he reminds her of Charlie Kirk.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/jd-vance-usha-ring-divorce-rumors-b2872571.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/01/jd-vance-usha-christianity

Ardillaun · 01-12-2025 08:01PM

True story, the president is concerned about corruption in Ukraine. Probably because they didn’t give him a percentage.

https://www.gazetaexpress.com/en/US-Ukraine-talks%3A-Trump-has-a-chance-for-agreement--but-corruption-in-Kiev-hinders/

Ardillaun · 01-12-2025 08:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034071#Comment_124034071

There’s lots more guff where that came from eg RINOs, traitors etc. etc.

dogbert27 · 01-12-2025 08:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033648#Comment_124033648

Sharks with lasers

Tell me how · 01-12-2025 09:00PM

Can the President of an Administration which admitted an act described as either a War Crime or Murder or both, win the Nobel Peace Prize?

Asking for a friend.

briany · 01-12-2025 09:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034071#Comment_124034071

You're either with MAGA or you're against it. Even if he doesn't use those specific terms, Trump wouldn't be stuck for words on slating and demonising anyone and everyone who stands against his wishes, even if he was full of praise for them the previous week.

Tell me how · 01-12-2025 09:13PM

It's worth nothing specifically the extent of the spin that this administration has to put on it's actions in an attempt to justify them.

Today, in the same press conference, Karoline Leavitt justified the 2nd strike on injured people which killed them as a reasonable act within the framework of America combatting drug trafficking which they claim to be narco-terrorism.

Then, she justified the President granting a pardon to the former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted and sentenced to 45 years in an American prison for, drug trafficking.

AbusesToilets · 01-12-2025 09:26PM

No surprise that the SOUTHCOM Cmdr resigned

everlast75 · 01-12-2025 09:45PM

This is apparently the results of the MRI......

Leroy42 · 01-12-2025 10:59PM

The WH knows it in bother over this strike.

Hence Levitt throwing the Admiral in front of the bus.

Only a few weeks ago Trump was taking 100% credit for the operation that saved America but now its all down to the Admiral.

Seth Brundle · 01-12-2025 11:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124032462#Comment_124032462

Maybe we will see a repeat of this punishment for their war crimes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz-Wilhelm_Eck

Tell me how · 01-12-2025 11:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034978#Comment_124034978

After all the ways we've seen Trump and those connected to him avoid true accountability for their actions, I'm not holding my breath that this will be the case where the scales of justice are accurately measured.

eightieschewbaccy · 02-12-2025 12:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034931#Comment_124034931

And it seems to amount to them killing two survivors in the water. Claiming they were a genuine threat is sounding increasingly implausible tbh.

aloyisious · 02-12-2025 12:06AM

CNN tonight has Trump as saying that Pte wouldn't do it, Pete wouldn't order a second strike, I didn't. He's basically thrown his Sec War under the bus with his denial of personal involvement in the double-tap to the boat and it's crew, while admitting there likely was a double-tap ordered on the boat and crew.

2nd source:

Tell me how · 02-12-2025 12:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035072#Comment_124035072

I think after Karoline Leavitts press conference today, they're trying to point the finger at Admiral Bradley who was involved in communicating the order.

Can the Dept of War simultaneously blame him and prevent him being prosecuted if it was illegal? Hegseth might try that to say it has been dealt with, but he himself is not at fault.

Actually I asked this already. Who can force a prosecution on this or prevent one happening? I've no doubt Bondi will play ball if she has the opportunity to get involved.

Tony EH · 02-12-2025 12:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034978#Comment_124034978

I wouldn't hold your breath.

Dudley Morton got away with the same thing.

aloyisious · 02-12-2025 12:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035084#Comment_124035084

My advice to Adm Bradley, if he's asked, would be to say I did what I was obliged to do, I obeyed the order I received from my immediate Civil Comdr, the Sec of War, Mr Hegseth, in line with President Trump's position on members of the U.S military obeying the orders of my Civil Comdrs in the Administration.

I expect some-one in the DOJ will cobble together a statement that the strikes were done under the orders of POTUS in line with his policy toward the Venezuelan Drug-terrorist president and mention that the U.S walked away from the ICJ in 2018 under the previous Trump Admin so it does not answer to that court.

Manic Moran · 02-12-2025 02:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035102#Comment_124035102

Even if it did answer to the ICJ as a nation, that doesn’t mean that the military personnel are beholden to international rules. The US does not have an equivalent to the Irish Third Amendment which grants extra-jurisdictional supremacy. The only rules that Adm Bradley (or any other person in the US) have to follow are those in US law and regulation. See Medellin v Texas, Supreme Court, 2007, which also said that the ICJ is not binding in the US. If they match international law, great. If not, US law rules. If the US or one of its agents violates an international treaty or law, it is something for the international community to take up with the US. As far as the functionaries are concerned, nothing outside the US exists. An international treaty creates an obligation for the nation to create compliant rules, if the rules are not changed, the treaty is not much more than an item of interest.

For a relevant example, the fact that the Geneva Conventions say “dont shoot at people who are hors de combat” is irrelevant to a US serviceman’s legal duty. What is relevant is that the DoD manual on the subject says “don't shoot people who are hors de combat.” He/she has a duty to follow the latter, not the former, it just happens to match. This matching is not a coincidence, but there is a legal reason it is done and one must consider US law more than international when considering duties, responsibilities and accountability.

Tell me how · 02-12-2025 02:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035084#Comment_124035084

Exactly as expected.

https://twitter.com/PeteHegseth/status/1995643490152128919?t=iT5k7Fli2ymCmA9IHBg8tw&s=19

Admiral Bradley should 100% be engaging non Dept of War legal representation. I dont necessarily have too much sympathy, if hes an Admiral, he knows the rules at this point, ir at least he should.

This finger pointing by the secretary of war must be spreading distrust through the enlisted like wildfire. Those Democrats were 100% justified in their video. One of the first meaningful ways they've responded to Trumps administration since it began.

Peregrinus · 02-12-2025 02:31AM

Can the Dept of War simultaneously blame him and prevent him being prosecuted if it was illegal?

Trump can prevent him from being prosecuted by pardoning him. And you can take it for granted that if anyone, from Hegseth down, comes within the bawl of an ass of being prosecuted for this, Trump will pardon them. There will be no prosecutions.

salmocab · 02-12-2025 08:37AM

that anyone is shocked at this surprises me. They have cheapened human life beyond belief and are happy shooting and killing each other so killing a few foreigners in a boat means nothing to them. This time they have their uniforms to hide behind and will of course have well rehearsed reasons why killing is okay because of rules they have.
but fear not they will say ‘thank you for your service’ to people who make a living creeping around other peoples countries killing them.

everlast75 · 02-12-2025 09:22AM

At least they have dropped the pretence that they are anything but an openly and explicit far right racist administration.

fly_agaric · 02-12-2025 09:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035301#Comment_124035301

Some of the US drone strikes and assassinations in other countries during their "War on Terror" were very dodgy.

However, blowing up ships in this way and killing all on board (rather than using your customs/coast guard type service to stop them and sieze or sink the ship etc. if it is found to be carrying contraband) seems like a whole new level of chaos and violence.

It's going to get worse, once other countries start to decide they can play at this game too and get away with it, and they will now the US leads the way forward.

The Trump admin. - kind of like an evil toddler just playing with matches for the fun of it (and it's the world they might burn up).

Doc07 · 02-12-2025 09:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035345#Comment_124035345

I presume the white americans who shoot school kids can still stay? They have long reached ‘Christ on a bike ‘ levels of batshit crazy but this might be a new low….of course soon to be forgotten and replaced with whatever nonsense they come out with by mid morning.