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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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    #21962
    ilkhanid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034246#Comment_124034246

    I wonder how much he knows about her dalliance with Putin's pals Wallace and Daly.



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    #21963
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034482#Comment_124034482

    He is hardly bothered about a president with no real powers politics, surprised he is coming here at all, surely he has more pressing matters at the moment .



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    #21964
    BettyS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭BettyS


    Ireland will be next for EU presidency, so it is not as inconsequential as we think



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    #21965
    Jizique
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭Jizique


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034497#Comment_124034497

    Yes, negotiations ongoing across the globe to decide the future of the country and he is visiting a non-NATO country which could barely be further away from his country in Europe, Portugal is perhaps a bit further - it truly smacks of irrelevance at this crucial time, sadly; RTE and the media will big it up for all it is worth but it really feels like the big decisions are being made elsewhere



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    #21966
    rogber
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124032298#Comment_124032298

    It's depressing and at this stage looks like the war will just continue into another year



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    #21967
    Ozymandius2011
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Russia now targeting employees of Ukrainian domestic weapons producers in their homes. An employee of the manufacturer ofthe Flamingo long range missiles was bombed in his apartment and the family all fell from the fifth floor. They are in a critical condition. Happened in Vyshhorod in Zakarpattia region.

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    There seems to be a divide in the administration between Witkoff and Rubio on what a deal should look like.



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    #21968
    Ardillaun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124032837#Comment_124032837

    But look at Hungary and Slovakia. Crazy stuff. What are Hungarians on? Even now, Orbán’s days may not be numbered.

    https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/new-poll-viktor-orban-election-2026-donald-trump-hungary/


    Good to see him getting the cold shoulder from the Polish president:

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/polish-president-cancels-meeting-with-hungarys-orban-over-russia-visit/
    Post edited by Ardillaun on


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    #21969
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,831 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034714#Comment_124034714

    Orban has spent years destroying anything remotely like independent media, allowing him to brainwash his people for ages now.

    I am also not too sure 'Hungarian Conservative' is a trustworthy source given that it's literally a mouthpiece for Orban. If you google the guy who wrote it it turns out he also wrote for Magyar Nemzet, which was pretty much Orban's newspaper.



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    #21970
    Ardillaun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034846#Comment_124034846

    Fair enough. I couldn’t find too many other reports on this. Bloomberg also reported his numbers are improving, unfortunately, but that was behind a paywall. My Hungarian landlady from years ago would have been appalled by Orbán. She lived through the Soviet invasion and her husband was killed by a military vehicle. On every other issue she was prepared to consider alternative views. But not on Russia.



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    #21971
    Ardillaun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124033035#Comment_124033035

    He may yet be remembered as the man who gave away much of his country to China.



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    #21972
    Ardillaun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034697#Comment_124034697

    I was wondering about that when watching a video about a drone factory. It’s a pity they don’t have more underground accommodation for critical employees and their families.



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    #21973
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,590 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn41jzw9eyko
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    The Ukrainian president will meet the taoiseach, who hopes to entice Putin to peace with a lifetime supply of spuds



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    #21974
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,627 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Bankrupt Mick Wallace earning his roubles this week…

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    what an embarrassment.



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    #21975
    mike_cork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    Screenshot_2025-12-02-08-05-54-139_com.android.chrome-edit.jpg

    Looking forward to reading how much money this has cost Russia.

    Burn baby burn



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    #21976
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,225 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035272#Comment_124035272

    Says he supping wine in his vineyard in Italy hosting Russian oligarchs.



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    #21977
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,831 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Very rich of Wallace to complain about tax money being wasted.



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    #21978
    Rawr
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,611 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035272#Comment_124035272

    I wonder if old Wally can see the irony of how easy it would be to just replace "Ukraine" with "Russia" at the end of his tweet to refect what's actually going on in Russia now?

    Loads of working class Russian kids getting thrown into the meatgrinder for the sake of Russian elites…or more to the point one elite.

    This clown is an absolute embarresment to Western Democracy…not to mention the nation.



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    #21979
    Large bottle small glass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035341#Comment_124035341

    Wallace has earned, not counting expenses or an sub committee payments and excluding pension costs, about €1.6M as a TD and MEP since 2011.

    Including pension, expenses his costs to tax payer is circa €2M.

    This is the same man who debts of about €30 were written down by State banks. I have a memory of Revenue losing out to buy I may be wrong. Was their issues with worker's PRSI payments?

    While this was going on he has had continual use of "his brother's vineyard" in Italy. My dopey wife's cousin sent a photo from it last year so he is still using it while being Mr left wing

    https://www.newsscoops.org/property-developers/what-about-the-vineyard-mr-wallace/?amp=1

    A life of eating well on the backs of tax payers, dodging debts underwritten by said tax payers while lecturing on tax payers money being wasted.

    Grade A (unt qualification.



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    #21980
    zv2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035376#Comment_124035376

    What perplexes me is why the Irish people elect people like him. I suppose they think a radical with a heifer's grasp of reality is better then no radical.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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    #21981
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,284 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    These "peace talks" get way too much attention in paper headlines.

    The main headline on the BBC website says Witkoff is in the Kremlin hoping for a "breakthrough". Like what the hell are they expecting? Some sort of a breakthrough without Ukraine, Europe, Trump etc.? Even though not a single person takes Witkoff seriously, and certainly not the Kremlin.

    Similar to Ukraine and the EU jointly calling for a ceasefire, it's not really a breakthrough.

    At what point will the media say no thank you to reporting on meaningless talks, and only report when there is actually some news to report on.



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    #21982
    fly_agaric
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035521#Comment_124035521

    You have a point. It's just still quite incredible to me to see the US behaving in this way (so that is still news I suppose?).

    Another question of interest is what happens when all the gadding about between Moscow and Mar a Lago fails and it runs into the sand + the war carries on (as I expect it will).

    Will we get a giant American temper tantrum, rattle flies from the pram and they blame Europeans/Ukraine for obstructing what Trump wants, the US sanctions on Russia get ended anyway (lots of money to be made for important people), and weapons purchases and other remaining US support for Ukraine get stopped completely?



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    #21983
    Ozymandius2011
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    Update from Denis Davydov. Situation improving for Ukraine in Kupiansk. Also Putin has returned to demanding a buffer zone along Ukraine's Northern border. What that shows is Putin has one message for Trump and another one for domestic consumption. Trump's notion that Putin wants peace is wishful thinking.

    Some sources say Russian forces at risk of encirclement. They don't fully control Vovchansk further north according to Ukrainians.

    https://youtu.be/n9y2QEED2eY?si=p6lWW5UHctI8ODOA


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    #21984
    dinorebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035272#Comment_124035272

    To be fair he's an expert when it comes to corruption.



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    #21985
    discostu1
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    Old men start wars,Young men die in them .Reuters followed 11 young Ukrainian recruits... none are still active in the military after a few weeks/ months. Probably the same story on the other side of the trench

    https://www.reuters.com/investigations/band-brothers-how-war-crushed-cohort-young-ukrainians-2025-12-01/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=twitter&utm_social_post_id=611621604&utm_social_handle_id=114050161948682&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=twitter



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    #21986
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,284 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    The key newsworthy item is that Trump sends a property investor (and his son-in-law for some reason!), and these talks are supposed to taken seriously.

    To your point, I think Trump himself would love to just walk away and would happily screw over Ukraine and Europe. But domestically, it would be unpalatable to most republicans to be overly acquiescent to the Kremlin.

    Most Americans are still very conscience of the military history, consider themselves a superpower and a key player on the world stage. The US as a proxy of Russia - and a much-weakened Russia at that - would be pushing it too far.

    The US have their own issues, China to the west, Venezuela in the south etc. so will surely want to maintain a strong posture.



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    #21987
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,789 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Scumbags

    https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1995802629163696573

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1995797713011503236

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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    #21988
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Nice article in UK Independent excoriating the US 'administration' and calling for Europe to stand up to Russia, properly support Ukraine, and to usurp/ cast aside the US in negotiations.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/trump-putin-russia-ukraine-peace-deals-witkoff-europe-nato-b2874327.html

    "Whether by accident or design, Vladimir Putin has a useful idiot running America. International diplomacy has been turned on its head, enemies made friends, allies threatened, international laws defoliated.

    "Russian strategic policy, known as the Gerasimov doctrine, argues that chaos in the ranks of the enemy is victory and a path to greatness. By that standard Putin, should be stringing up bunting in the Kremlin."

    **** the US, frankly.



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    #21989
    slay55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭slay55


    why is he coming here ? I hope after the war that there is an investigation into all the money that that little goblin and his cronies have taken.

    Seems like the Ukrainians have their hands out begging at all levels

    Mod - warned for breach of forum charter

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


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    #21990
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,831 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035901#Comment_124035901

    Oh great, another one.



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    #21991
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,284 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124035901#Comment_124035901

    You should google this.

    Just wait til you see why they need significant support since February 2022! (spoiler alert - it's not pleasant)



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