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Luas Finglas

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  • #1142
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,823 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124030390#Comment_124030390

    This is what I can't understand. It's ready to go so why not get shovels in the ground in 6 months? Why is it taking so long to get anything done?



  • #1143
    OisinCooke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭OisinCooke


    I’m not sure myself, but I think maybe in part, as they did with the RO application, they could be waiting to get Metro well underway so that god forbid they is further funding cuts, no one can just cancel the metro and call for the Luas to be extended to the airport…



  • #1144
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Daith


    I really hope the Dept of Transport and other stakeholders don't actually believe they have to wait until the Metro is actually being built before any Luas extension



  • #1145
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,679 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    So have TII actually announced that they are ready to deliver this project but they’re just waiting on a bag of money off the dept of transport?
    That way Darragh o Brien will have to pass the buck to Simon Harris as minister of finance as his dept not releasing funds.
    It’s crazy this has to be done.



  • #1146
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124030573#Comment_124030573

    It is principally down to prioritising the projects for funding - that is a political decision which the government have taken, noting that they are now also including some road projects in the funding for this five year period that the previous Minister put on ice.

    There seems to be a general lack of understanding of how government works.

    Unfortunately just because something has got planning permission and is shovel ready doesn’t mean that it automatically gets construction funding immediately. It then goes into the pot for the Department of Public Expenditure (not Finance) to fund and for cabinet to approve once the final business case is prepared. DPER were never going to sign off everything concurrently in any case.

    Things can change depending on what is actually spent - that could move projects forward over this five year investment period.



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  • #1147
    Consonata
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Consonata


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124030618#Comment_124030618

    It completely undermines the governments arguments that Judicial Review is what prevents projects from being built however.



  • #1148
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124030690#Comment_124030690

    It doesn't really. They are part of the problem, even if not the sole reason. Not having any idea of when projects will exit the planning process also does not help in allocating funding efficiently.



  • #1149
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    It bothers me that they delayed Luas Finglas to 2029 and then immediately said they were thinking of bringing it forward sooner as if they’re doing us a favour.



  • #1150
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,679 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124030618#Comment_124030618

    It’s not a lack of understanding of how things work- it’s a criticism of how things work.
    What I’m saying is the amount of money being spent should be increased to speed up the delivery of this critical piece of infrastructure.
    Is there anywhere that shows what the breakdown of spend for transport Infrastructure (including road and rail etc) is on a year by year basis?
    So that we can see what they’re actually forecast to spend in 2026 and on what.



  • #1151
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,679 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Yet he we are with a project that is shovel ready, has an RO but doesn’t have money allocated to it.



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  • #1152
    KrisW1001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124031068#Comment_124031068

    Nah, it sounds like the project funding was pushed back by DPER, but the local TDs are trying to build up support to get that decision reversed. I think there’s been a realisation that, the way things are panning out, some of these big projects may not be underway by the time the next election arrives…



  • #1153
    BlueSkyDreams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124032926#Comment_124032926

    I think we all knew most of them wouldnt be under way, the pressing question is will any of the projects be under way by time of the next election.



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