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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I believe this is an increase of about 20BN dollars. I'd say he'd love to put it up by more but can't A third of all spending and social programs to be cut.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Isn't that just the same fear as when the USSR collapsed?
    It's the same as we hear with Trump, far worse in waiting. There maybe far worse in waiting, but they won't have the same control. You can't live in fear ffs. What's next wishing Putin thoughts and prayers if he get a cold for fear of him dying. hate to break it to you, he won't live forever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If this was the Russian army from 2022 they'd all be riding in armoured vehicles. Progress takes time but Ukraine is making it. Those last few thousand armoured vehicles being pulled out of storage for repairs will arrive in dribs or drabs so without a long ceasefire the Russian army isn't recovering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,215 ✭✭✭Ardillaun




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Very much so. Belgium is dead right. This talk of release Russian assets is, or should be imho, a non starter. Keep them frozen by all means, but releasing them would be right up there with the Kremlin idiocy of stealing all those leased airliners at the start of this war. A populist kneejerk move that will do little actual good, but huge actual long term harm to financial confidence in the EU/Europe.

    The world is currently re-alligning and confidence in the US is falling. What confidence there was in Russia is gone. China waits in the wings. Europe for all its faults is seen as stable and somewhere broadly trustworthy. That would be seriously impacted by what would be seen in much of the world as stealing sovereign assets. America can, or rather could, get away with stuff like that as the sole superpower and world currency, Europe can't to nearly the same degree, nor should we try.

    There are many other ways Europe can thwart Russian and increasingly American plans to carve up Ukraine(and The World Order©) for their own ends while leaving Europe sidelined. That's the bloody danger, a danger that grabbing a few billion Kremlin assets won't fix and will make worse. Again imho.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Rare video of Ukrainian French Mirage-2000 shooting down a Russian air target last night. The French Mirage 2000s according to some recent reports have had a 99% interception rate.

    Reports Ukrainian spy chief Krylo Budanov headed to DC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    The grift continues unabated!

    Drumpf is filth!

    Expect more pressure on Ukraine to accept a "Deal" soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I think it shows that the US is in no position to point fingers at Ukraine regarding corruption.

    We are all just real estate to these people.

    During Reconstruction in the Southern United States after the American Civil War, when the South was forced to enfranchise Blacks, a few corruption scandals caused the North to lose interest in civil rights after the Grant presidency until the 1960s. We need to be careful that we dont lose sight of the bigger picture in criticising corruption in Ukraine.

    Im surprised Transparency International rates the US so highly on not being corrupt. We all know that the billionaires own the American government.



  • Moderators Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭Azza


    Can't say I agree with this at all. Firstly if your worries are about the legality of such a move, the fact is we already crossed that Rubicon when Europe started directing the interest accruing on that money towards Ukraine something that already went against international law.

    Nor is this a kneejerk reaction, we are almost four years in to Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine and Europe has been agonizing over such a move for the duration. To say nothing of Europe's weak response to Russia ever since 2014.

    Are we worried somehow down the line Russia could sue the EU/Belgium when it is responsible for a war that's killed hundreds of thousands of people and cost far more economically than those Russia assets are worth.

    What sort of messed up world would we be living in if somehow EU/Belgium was more on the hock under international law than Russia is?

    There is not a sign of Russia ending the war it started never mind ever getting to the point where the Russian's are considering paying any sort of reparations for the damage they have caused. Are we going eventually give the money back and take a Russian pinky swear that they will pay. It's absurd.

    As for reputational damage. Most western aligned countries, I'm thinking Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Australia will have saw Europe's lengthy deliberation over this issue and will understand why would chose to do it, so I don't think those countries would lose any trust in us.

    I suppose more sus countries might, your tinpot dictatorships in Africa or Middle East might rethink leaving lots of cash in Europe, but you got ask yourself is that the sort of money Europe should be holding on to in the first place. The answer is no, but of course Europe will take dirty money and turn a blind eye too it. But again most countries will look at Europe's reason for this and ask themselves, what would it take to get Europe to seize our assets. Answer a massive and lengthy invasion of a European country. I don't think anyone other Russia is ever likely to do that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


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    Welcome news although not sure if it's just a coincidental.....or the Ukranians ramping up their own sanctions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭combat14


    if the ukranians can rapidly take out 20 or so of these illegal vessels in the near future the appetite for transporting sanctioned russia oil will evaporate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    And the beauty with the Black Sea is that as it's closed to military vessels, only what's left of the Russian Black Sea fleet could potentially provide an escort. That would be just more targets for the sea baby drones!

    It's not like the Chinese or Indian navy can escort them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    Only 16 years old which makes it less likely that this was an accident, however on the other hand this ship is owned by a Turkish company. Would the Ukrainians dare to attack a ship from a country that has helped it?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    What sort of messed up world would we be living in if somehow EU/Belgium was more on the hock under international law than Russia is?

    The world where Belgium will obey any international court and Russia will ignore them. They are not playing on an equal playing field.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,502 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    Perpetrated by sick deluded old men drunk on wealth and power!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Storage tanks in this port should be full to the brim? Could be a good time to launch another aerial UAV raid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,368 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If Kazakhstan wasn't one of the main hubs for sanctioned goods into Russia I might have some sympathy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Russia's new state dictionary calls authoritarianism the "most effective" form of government.

    Why wouldn't they when they bought Trump and Maga and have the US as their lapdog, their new Belarus.

    It's ten years now since Boris Nemtsov was murdered outside the Kremlin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,368 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Ukraine’s national security chief Rustem Umerov confirmed that peace talks are underway in Florida as Secretary of state Marco Rubio said he expects to make “more progress” toward a deal to end the war.

    "This is not just about peace deals. It's about creating a pathway forward that leaves Ukraine sovereign, independent and prosperous and so we expect to make even more progress today," Rubio said in Hallandale Beach, Florida, where talks are taking place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,368 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Another symptom of the Russian economy their manned spaceflight program may be off the rails for a few years.

    This won't affect military satellites but is a huge loss of prestige. It means they won't be able to launch NASA astronauts to the ISS which may hasten the de-orbit scheduled for 2031. No ISS , less reason for US and Russian cooperation.

    https://russianspaceweb.com/baikonur_r7_31.html#cabin

    "According to multiple Russian sources, on Nov. 27, 2025, the launch of the Soyuz MS-28 crew vehicle caused the mobile service platform at Site 31 to collapse into the flame duct below the pad. … repairs of the service platform, known as 8U0216, could take up to two years … Unofficially, violations of operational procedures, stemming from increasingly scarce maintenance of the facility in the past few years, were blamed for the collapse of the structure."

    Meanwhile https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/Vega/Kompsat-7_launch_on_Vega-C

    "Liftoff from Europe’s Spaceport in French Guiana is set for 1 December 14:21 local time (17:21 GMT, 18:21 CET).

    Kompsat-7 (KOrea Multi-Purpose SATellite-7) will provide high-resolution satellite images for South-Korea's government and institutions."

    Will the nice Koreans share intel with the side that's facing the naughty Koreans ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,215 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Maybe not a formal ideology, more an instinctive attitude. He does have a definite preference for tyrants. They’re his people. When he was with MBS in the White House he sided with him over the insolent local reporter asking rude questions about a dismembered journalist. What he really hates is any politician from a democratic country who openly disagrees with him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Reports Army Secretary Dan Driscoll dodged European questions about immunity for war criminals.

    He said to Kyiv that it had to accept the plan, because its losing and will lose more cities anyway and that Russia has unlimited capacity to keep fighting.

    That is defeatism. The plan was changed then to the 19 point plan. There was then a meeting with Russia in Abu Dhabi, after which Lavrov said Russia might reject the new plan. Reports Witkoff will go to Moscow this time with Jared Kushner.

    There is clearly indecent haste to sign business deals with Russia, like oil exploration in the Arctic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    absolutely no surprise there. I voted no. It was a do-goody referendum that would cost a lot of money. Looked good on paper but was a pup in reality. Handed its arse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,215 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Threats of a future lawsuit? Come on, Belgium. Putin has talked about nuking Europe on multiple occasions and is already waging a sabotage campaign against NATO. There are worse things than legal writs in this world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,156 ✭✭✭saabsaab




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,215 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    It’s like a mugger complaining about a victim who fights back.



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