Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

It’s obviously not black & white, but Garnacho moved when was 17/18 for a few hundred k. Those transactions happen all the time. The hard bit for top clubs is converting that ‘talent’ into premier league players under the immense pressure that comes with being at a big club.

It’s why the likes of Brighton etc. can do it so much more effectively.

Chelsea have a different model. High volume, loads out on loan around with feeder clubs. Sell for decent profit. It’s a good business model financially but doesn’t really have a track record of establishing top level players at Chelsea (some go on to establish elsewhere)

I’d argue Mainoo, Garnacho & Greenwood are/were bigger ‘talents’ at United than Chelsea have produced in a long long time.

Gallagher, Mount & James are the ones who really established as top players with Chelsea. You could argue Mount is in the mix with the three above pre his injuries I guess.

Id put Scott McTominay on a level with Gallagher when he left United. Estbalished premier league regular and international player (albeit appears United didn’t see the best of him)

You’ll see arsenal were explicitly excluded from my comment as they have produced amazing academy players and are league leading in the regard

And a new manager to go with them hopefully. Inoes really need to have a heart to heart about the managers position before committing more big funds. Midfield is okay because that's been neglected for over a decade.

But before they start spending millions on wingers to play WB. He must be frightened at taking a CB off for an attacking player in case it actually works out. You'd do it at 11 v 11 if chasing a goal never mind if you've had a man advantage for majority of the game.

Equally crap, but one is a league winner about to get sacked and the other is somehow having the best run in his time at the club. It says a little something about how much United fans have jettisoned their standards.

Yes, I know there are other factors involved. Its not a big deal, I just don't think we should hold other managers to higher standards than we hold our own.

It's looking bleak for him after last night.

Our win at Anfield was clearly not the corner turning moment many fans hoped it might be.

The reality is they're in full scale crisis mode, they haven't been this bad since Roy Hodgson - and even at that, they still had more than enough chances to beat United that day.

Of all the fixtures RA has had, the loss to Everton i think showed his inexperience up the most. I dont he's capable of getting this team going at all. He certainly hasn't shown it. That game just reminded me of the Europa League final when they were a goal down. Get it out to Amad/(Mbuemo also now) and hope one of them cut inside and score on their left. That seems to be it…. No other ideas or patterns that you can see looks to be working. Statues looking at each other.

His game management and lack of tactics is shocking.

Forget the Bruno argument appearing again….its because he is not in the correct position on the field- thats the managers fault.

Their last title defence was pretty shambolic too to be fair
They eventually got their act together and scraped into 4th. Hopefully not this time.

More Wins would meet that merit i think

but PPM is number of points/matches.
If you have the same matches and points, it is impossible for the PPM value to differ.
Win % is the one that can differ, not PPM. It is simply nonsense to say Slot has a better PPM this season.