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WFH is dead and buried. Right to WFH bill is pointless

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,816 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,816 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    They are integral to scrum.

    I have seen people creating busy work or going into too much detail on routine work just to fill their spot in the daily. If unchecked others feel obligated to do the same and it becomes a slog. As a result our non scrum daily withered and died. I hear they are bringing it back in dev. New hires seem to grasp the idea a bit better.

    AI summaries and AI generated work items bring a bit of welcome structure to meetings.

    I thought we had better information sharing in covid because it was online and planned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 PatMcGoo


    Yes, we are tracking the work being done as a team, any issues are better discovered in the daily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    An hour is too long! They are called stand ups as you are supposed to literally stand for the duration, which is meant to keep them brief. Consider a separate meeting for issue resolution that only relevant people need attend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭Banzai600


    i have the luxury to wfh which is great, i still get ppl to come in 2/3 days a week which i think is fair.

    i deal with a wide variety of businesses and A LOT of companies seem to be pulling ppl back into the office full time from what i am hearing. its causing these ppl great upset etc, i get it, but im not sure what ppl can do to try keep the wfh scenario they currently have.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭techman1


    My worst sin is pottering about on boards, but others I know are doing jigsaws, grocery shopping or just watching the soaps

    Ha , id say it's the female cohort watching the soaps. Interesting that the soap writers need working in the office for their plots, WFH is too dull and uninteresting for a soap writer. We had the Ricky Gervais wonderful "the office " a great series with loads of interesting and funny interactions. How would you come up with such a series for WFH , you couldn't. So working at home but watching soaps about people not working from home, it's funny isn't it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Not really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    The office isn't a soap.

    Soaps are programmes like Eastenders and Corrie and majority of them spend their time in the pub or the café, never really spend much time in office buildings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,816 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Off the top of my head.

    Rear Window
    1954 ‧ Alfred Hitchcock / John Michael Hayes,

    Disturbia 2007, The Net (1995 film)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭techman1


    My post was referring to the hit "The Office" that was ground breaking, it was all the interactions between the different people working in the office that generated the material. Corrie had a workplace the sewing factory with Mike Baldwin in the office that generated alot of material back in the 80s and 90s. My point is that WFH isn't exactly rich material for drama because nothing happens there .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,816 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    From memory, there are more scenes in peoples homes and houses than in the sewing factory.

    What about Downtown Abbey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    I know what the office was, watched and loved it.

    Majority of soaps happen inside the pub, café and as pointed out by Flinty in people's homes. Plenty of ways to get drama involved. Not sure what any of this has to do with actually real people wfh? Majority aren't sitting watching tv or soaps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭techman1


    Not sure what any of this has to do with actually real people wfh? Majority aren't sitting watching tv or soaps.

    Someone made the point that some people that are working from home are watching the soaps, but the soaps feature drama that is far from WFH, the office and workplaces were worthy of that drama but WFH is not since nothing happens. They are watching soaps about drama that is far away from WFH while WFH, that's the point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You're right, no drama has ever happened in houses before, how silly of me. Most murders, affairs, deep meaningful conversations or arguments amongst a family all happen when you're in the office.

    Again, The Office isn't a soap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭GHendrix


    WFH is so much better and I still think it will be the future despite the current resistance from big companies that tend to have older senior management.

    It’s absolutely unsustainable madness to have thousands and thousands of cars spending hours queuing to get into Dublin to do jobs that can easily be done remotely.

    Younger generations are more and more tech savvy and know how to collaborate without needing to physically be together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Only Fools and Horses - set largely in the home and pub - no sign of a traditional office there.

    The Good Life - set in the home.

    There are plenty of other examples if you re to look. A traditional office isn't essential, either as a setting for a TV series or for many types of work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    if your point is that in-office is better than WFH because there is less 'drama' and its less interesting working from home, so there is less material for TV shows……..then okay, thats good for you.

    i think most of us would be happier with the workplace that would better allow their work to be completed sufficiently while keeping an acceptable work/life balance. for alot of, if not most, people that is working from home for the majority of the time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,816 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    It's a bit worrying some people think TV is real.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭techman1


    but it is based on real life, its an exagerrated and spiced up take on real life yes, but it has to have some basis on reality to be relevant , why are so many people addicted to soaps ? WFH is real yes, but its not spicy enough or interesting enough for soaps , therefore it doesn't feature whereas offices and workplaces are interesting and do feature in soaps and dramas .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭beachhead


    You're right Flinty997

    But what's worse is the WFH bunch think their life is real now.Civil servants and to a lesser extent public servants taking the p… out of WFH.Some in CS don't want to be in an office-yawning,shuffling wrappers etc when you call-eventually getting thru.As for writing or email,sur replying after a year will do.A little bird told me that 30% of staff are WFH.More like 50%+



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,816 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Could be worse could be trying to get through to private company like Ticketmaster or Virgin Media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,816 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    If Coronation Street is an accurate representation of anyone's office they have sympathy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭techman1


    Only Fools and Horses - set largely in the home and pub - no sign of a traditional office there.

    Thats not an analogy for working from home, del boy was a self employed entrepreneur not an office worker, his work place was the market not his apartment. In any case his employees were grandad and Rodney who were always with him physically, that's where the humour came from . They weren't sitting at home in front of a desktop with headphones on with grandad in Dublin and Rodney in the market. That's what I mean when I say it's not material for drama, soaps or comedy

    With "the office " even though they were basically sitting in front of desk tops too the drama came from the interaction between the different characters physically in the office and with the people not in the office all day but in the warehouse at the back. The reality of most office based workers is that they support a physical real world production



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    This thread has gone sideways.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    One poster is just obsessed with discussing tv shows because one show The Office was set in an office so that means that all tv shows are comparable to wfh for some reason.



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