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  • 07-11-2025 08:26PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    Step daughter was studying in Exeter, bought a car last Dec in NI - NI plate 2016- and brought it to UK. Now we want to import it to ROI, so any idea if we will we have to pay customs/duty or just VRT?

    Cheers



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,728 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Look into Transfer of Residency and see if she qualifies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,759 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Studying abroad does not qualify for TOR.

    OP - did she register the car in Britain?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Yeah tried the TOR ok and were refused.

    The V5 has her UK address if that is what you mean by registering the car in Britain?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,728 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    She will have to pay 23% VAT, 10% customs, and then she can pay VRT



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    So need to have it registered back in NI for 3 months prior to VRTing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,728 ✭✭✭✭User1998




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Aye made the mistake of thinking that she'd be able to avail of the TOR after her studies were finished; car was €8K this time last year, OMSP was £32K ish and the Nox charges etc are at the upper end - I think - cannot find the exact model on the VRT calculator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Dex Dexta


    Not much relevance, but was there a time a student qualified?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Dunno, was unaware of the student clause, just thought you had to have lived/owned the car in the UK for 6 months. Makes sense I suppose with the numbers of people going to the UK to study over the years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Did not realize it was baked into the SI , something for Bertie Ahern to be asked about https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1993/si/59/made/en/print



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Dex Dexta


    didn’t realise it was as far back as '92 😳

    I’ll ask him when he knocks on the door, in 7 years time 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    Would be very surprised if that man came out of the woodwork in 7 years time, more chance of DJ carey being elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Dex Dexta


    The DJ will be skullin' pints in Arklow shortly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,126 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    It’s part of the EU directive (originally EC directive) and intended to simplify matters for students who were not expected to remain following their studies. But it takes as much as it gives in this instance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Dex Dexta


    After graduation, how long would a student have to work in UK to be VRT free?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,728 ✭✭✭✭User1998




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Dex Dexta


    Is that all - Brillo!

    I still have the hots for a 'cheap' Giulia Quad. Send the junior boy to some Ag college (at the risk of being expelled for taking animal husbandry literally). Then run it through the farm books as a quad 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Could save a bob or two on a Landcruiser… 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Dex Dexta


    I do like the new one - it has proper taillights 😁 A white roof (all jeeps should have a white roof, to keep your head cool on safari) and white steelies 😎

    Is there a limit on how many vehicles you can relocate with?

    If it’s this simple why doesn’t everybody move to, and work, in Area 6, for 6.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,126 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    The + part here is carrying a lot of water. None of the time spent at school or university is included when determining whether the “normal residence” of a person has been established in a particular country (directive 83/183/EEC). The person here would have to establish normal residence (“the place where a person usually lives, that is for at least 185 days in each calendar year, because of personal and occupational ties or, in the case of a person with no occupational ties, because of personal ties which show close links between that person and the place where he is living”) after leaving university and cannot be on a task of definite duration. Additionally, if they regularly travel to Ireland then there is a further balancing of the occupational vs personal ties.

    Personally, I would not expect the “child” contemplated here as having any significant prospect of qualifying for TOR relief unless they common to 2 years or more to the U.K. Having claimed the relief myself, I know that there is voluminous documentation required to show the property used in the U.K., the job held etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Dex Dexta


    So, not so easy then.

    I forgot the golden rule of the interweb - only take advice from the experienced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    So, has turned into an expensive proposition.

    Step daughter paid £6000 for the car this time last year in NI. Revenue valuation of the the car at the min is €14000 - for a 9 year old car that cost £31K new.. a bit bananas. Then it has high CO2, 170, so that brings the VRT estimate to €5300+

    Of course, along with all that there's the customs charges to look forward to - anyone any idea how they calculate those? I'd like to be forewarned before hand if possible…

    Cheers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,728 ✭✭✭✭User1998




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    That the customs charge? £2100, €2.5K not good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Dex Dexta


    Stick a card on the Uni notice board - For Sale: special discount for Northern Irish buyer.

    BTW an NI reg is irrelevant - it’s the keeper's address that matters (if you decide to go that route).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Aye, that's why I'm looking at the rather large customs charge. 😱



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,728 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Have you not already done the VRT appointment? Too late for that now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Went to the VRT so they could get the details of the car, chassis no, milage etc as they had no idea about the model of car, no payment made yet. We were querying the valuation, but you can't appeal that until after you've paid it.. and you can't pay it until you've a letter to confirm you've paid the customs/duty on the import.. will prob return the car to the step daughter to sell, as it seems a bit expensive to bring in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,728 ✭✭✭✭User1998




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Another query on this…

    Sold the car to a mate of mine in Belfast at the start of Jan, he'll have owned it 3 months in a couple of weeks. 'We' would like to buy it back of him next month. What then is the process? Just arrange a VRT again, show them the V5 and wait for the new valuation, but (hopefully) no customs charges?



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