Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

I guess the two lads came up with the money. Or benefactors did on their behalf.

Gobble is Bill Clinton's pet name for Donald.

Hegseth seems upset with Scouting America, plans banning Pentagon from working with the organisation because its too DEI, is to ban it from Pentagon land and bases. One hopes he doesn't contemplate starting up a rival scouting organisation on a preferred basis linked to Project 2025.

Jebus. I've been catching up on the Letitia James and James Comey cases.

My god. Talk about a complete sh1tshow and as clear a case of political abuse as it possible to find.

Its really shocking. And even worse is that nobody seems bothered in the slightest

If you are happy to call these 83 deaths extrajudicial killings then you are obviously happy living in a country at present no longer governed by the rule of law as all of them have been committed outside of any legal or judicial framework. And no, a dictate from Trump does not make these killings legal or judicial.

It appears that Admiral Holsey was asking for legal clarification when he met Caine and Hegseth only to have Hegseth complain he wasn`t killing enough people. At least with Holsey, less than one year into to tenure as Commander of U.S Southern Command, he had the moral backbone to see it for what it is and resign.

Does it not perhaps cross your mind at some stage that for some strange reason the most advanced naval fleet in the world has had to resort to blowing up all these boats rather than stop and search them. Or that despite your commander and chief stating that fentanyl could be seen floating on the surface after the first boat was blown out of the water killing eleven people that not one scrap of evidence has been produced to show any of those 21 boats were carrying drugs ?

A) There is no middle

B) being 'actively helpful and detrimental on a practical level' should be a f*cking requirement when being forced to interact with the orange idiot.

If I for some reason had to interact with him I would be as unhelpful as humanly possible no matter what situation is being resolved - even if resolving it would bring net positives.

MM is right. We can't expect rank and file soldiers to legally asses every order and decide on its moral or legal standing. Completely impractical.

However, it is the responsibility of politicians to hold other politicians to account and it should not be seen as treason or sedition to remind all members of the military of their alligence to the constitution and not any politician.

So while I can understand why people might disagree with the form or the message in general that the Dems sent out it pales into insignificance compared to the CiC calling for them to be treated as traitors.

That is the key issue here. Should members of the armed forces continue to obey orders from a man who clearly has no issue with breaking the constitution.

It should ordinarily be the top brass. But we have seen Trump fire many of those and insert Trump supporters with little or no experience or backbone in their place. Hegseth being the ultimate example. So if the top brass won't do it it falls to those below them to carry the burden.

Because at the end of the day each service members duty is to protect America. Sometimes that requires standing up to internal threats.

I certainly don't envy any member of the armed forces as its clear they are facing very difficult questions in the future. Something none of them signed up to.

We are talking about an army that bombed children and locked up tortured and sexually assaulted innocent civilians.

So when the order comes down to blow up a supposed drug boat I'm sure "hoo ra" is how most of them respond.

You are looking for things like justice, morality or remorse from a bunch of serial war crimes committers.

A leaked call reported by Blooomberg shows the Kremlin's peace plan being presented to the US with instructions to present it as an American plan:

"Putin Advisers Discuss Plans for Dealing With Trump: Transcript. 

The following is a transcript of an Oct. 29 phone call between Yuri Ushakov, Vladimir Putin’s most senior foreign-policy adviser, and Kirill Dmitriev, an economic adviser to the Russian president.

The transcript was prepared after Bloomberg reviewed a recording of the call. The original Russian is included below the translation for reference.

Ushakov: Hallo.

Dmitriev: Yuri Viktorovich.

Ushakov: Yes, Kirill Aleksandrovich, well, I’ve sent everything there. We’ll talk tomorrow.

Dmitriev: Well, great, great. Yes, yes, yes. I flew to Saudi Arabia. But it seems to me it’s very important, because it’s a really good way forward.

Ushakov: Well, we need the maximum, don’t you think? What do you think? Otherwise, what’s the point of passing anything on?

Dmitriev: No, look. I think we’ll just make this paper from our position, and I’ll informally pass it along, making it clear that it’s all informal. And let them do like their own. But, I don’t think they’ll take exactly our version, but at least it’ll be as close to it as possible.

Ushakov: Well, that’s exactly the point. They might not take and say that it was agreed with us. That’s what I’m afraid of.

Dmitriev: No, no, no. I’ll say it exactly as you say it, word for word.

Ushakov: They might twist it later, that’s all. There is that risk. There is. Well, alright, never mind. We’ll see.

Dmitriev: Yeah, it seems to me you can talk later with Steve about this paper. We will do everything neatly.

Ushakov: [Unclear]

Dmitriev: Thank you so much, Yuri Viktorovich. Thank you so much, thank you. Goodbye. "

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-25/putin-advisers-discuss-plans-for-dealing-with-trump-transcript?embedded-checkout=true&leadSource=reddit_wall

I'd say something about how utterly disgraceful it is but the truth is that it's so banal, so empty, so facetious and so low that it was entirely predictable.

This is what the US is now and it's utterly contemptible and pathetic.