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Five years on, what did COVID teach you?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭Baybay


    I am generally a rule follower, that’s my personality, especially if the rules make sense to me. Happy to wfh, wear a mask in public etc

    I did then & still do, wfh. I didn’t want to be ill & I didn’t want to look at which of my friends could be responsible if I became so.

    I was happy at home with my family & in the garden. I know I will never buy a property without some kind of private outside space.

    Covid also helped weed out what used to be known as the tin foil hat brigade. Maybe that is me to others but even now there are people I know who & with whom I used to be better friends who are awaiting the arrival of the 3i Atlas passengers. I’ve learned to be more discerning in my friendships.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Yep, 'flattening the curve'. Ireland understood pretty early on that zero Covid was an impossible goal, it was all about minimisation of impact.

    A full year into the pandemic, even with vaccines on the way and with an open land border with a country who were pretty cavalier about the whole thing, we still had people like that flute Anthony Staines telling us we should go for zero Covid. Strange days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Exactly, they did quite well at containing it until they lost the run of themselves and started the ridiculous rolling lockdowns and the mask loons with their tin hats ranting about airborne killers, good point on the system, people were amazed how rubbish our healthcare system really was.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Apparently remote working was a mistake all along because workers are more productive when in an office situation

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/1111/1543360-denis-obrien-on-remote-working/

    For context Denis O'Brien is the same man that appointed Brian Cowen to the boards of Topaz Energy and the Beacon Hospital so what he considers to be an "efficient" worker needs to be taken with a pinch of salt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    It's almost as if he has office spaces that are vacant in Dublin that he'd like to be filled with people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Taught me something I knew already, that people are stupid. Idiots kept it going for so long, it only ended thanks to Putin invading Ukraine. If that didn't happen they would probably stretch it for another year. Bizarre that whole episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭foxsake


    I learnt many things.

    on a personal level I learned that many embraced lockdown cos it normalised their anti social lives.

    on a national (maybe global level) I found 90% of people will do what they're told regardless. the man on the telly spouts fear and they obey. Its easy to see why places like North Korea can exist.

    thomas edison i think

    Five percent of the people think, ten percent of the people think they think - and the other eighty-five percent would rather die than think.

    95% of people took the vaccine go figure….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    I learned there's a lot of narcissists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭pawdee


    I learnt, from our then Health Minister, that there were 18 previous coronaviruses. This man is now our Minister for Finance. Politicians never cease to amaze me with the width and depth of their knowledge.

    Also, if you collected up every Sars-CoV-2 virus particle in the world, it would fit inside a soft drinks can.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,561 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    That the country I live in, the United Arab Emirates, is anything but united! To live in the emirate that was ultra conservative and see the shananigans in Dubai was extremely frustrating.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    Conversely. It also confirmed who in your friend/acquaintance circle would happily see a person sent to the gulags for not obeying the governments every incoherent utterance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭Bredabe


    What I learned and which confirmed my inkling for decades is… the amount of people who think they know more or better than the experts in their respective fields. the amount of amateur biologists, weather forecasters and epidemiologists I met in the period was, I feel unreal.

    That people will be dumfounded when they find the crap they spread to everyone around that can have real world consequences. A healthcare practitioner I use on occasion was really taken aback when they spotted a bruise, caused by one of their anti mask compatriots pushing me into a door. They really looked shocked to see that there are people who will take their anti this or that believes further than just sprouting it to anyone who will listen.

    "Have you ever wagged your tail so hard you fell over"?-Brod Higgins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,280 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Post edited by Hotblack Desiato on

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    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Dennis O Brien is probably hiring the wrong people (Brian Cowen twice for example) and hence why remote working isn't doesn't work for him. The problem for him starts with hiring the capable staff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    You didn't or don't have to be a scientist (even though I am) to have realised the 'experts' were talking rubbish alot of the time. Remember the 9 euro meal and the masks standing up but not sitting down?

    Also, only 'experts' that followed the fear narrative were given airtime. Dr. Martin Fehilly who was a top guy in the HSE got retired not long after going on Prime Time and telling us alot of more measured things which turned out to be true. Whereas, the likes of Staines and McConkey were on the radio constantly throughout because they said 'we're all gonna die'.

    Have you ever heard of the Great Barrington Declaration? 'Experts' from Harvard, Stanford and Oxford, again more measured, but not ever mentioned on Irish media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Last one: So many really don't understand what scientists actually are and do.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,280 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    More measured? It amounted to 'let it rip' and we saw how that worked out in the UK. You've been following their covid review this week I presume?

    The 9 euro meals were to keep numbers down and let the pub make a bit of profit to reduce the burden of PUP on the taxpayer. The pub didn't have to open if they didn't like it, and the punters didn't have to go there if they didn't like it either.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,922 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    That the 9 euro meal and wet pubs were based on laws already on the books (5 shilling meal) hence their usage and arbitrary value used.

    That those giving out about lockdowns used to reduce hospitalisations have been very quiet about increasing taxes to vastly increase health capacity since lockdowns finished (vastly to avoid lockdowns would be in the order of 50-100% more just in case there is another pandemic).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    That for next pandemic we need to trust vaccines and science more. The idea that we still needed restrictions with 85% of our population vaccinated and scientists telling us that Omicron was less dangerous than previous variants was completely ridiculous

    If kids are less suspectable to the harmful effects of a virus that it's more beneficial to keep them in school. School from home simply doesn't work

    Also if you're allowing freedom of travel to a country without restrictions there's no point in imposing restrictions in your own country

    A small bit of common sense goes a long way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I'd love to know the science behind the 5 kilometre restriction.

    I am far from a fan of Dominic Cummins and I know he got into hot water over his trip to Barhard Castle, but, he was in his car with his wife who lives with him anyway. They drove further than 5km, wandered around the castle and drove home again.

    I know its the hypocrisy that people were angry about, but it seems logic and scientific analysis took a back seat during the whole crisis.

    Edit: Just on the lessons learned for the next pandemic. I was in hospital for a week back in October. I spent the first 3 days on a trolley, then I was moved into a room sharing with another person, and managed to catch covid while I was there. So I think in terms of lessons learned, I don't think any lessons were learned.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    At a very basic level it was to reduce transmission. The inquest findings in the UK estimated that around 27 thousand lives may have been saved if the UK shut down at the same time we did instead of delaying a week.

    In Venice there's an island where in the times of the plague ship crews who just arrived would have to stay 40 days to ensure none carried any transmittable disease.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I get that and agree they should have locked down sooner, but the 5km thing just seems like an arbitrary number. There are farmers in yorkshire who live 5km from the next human being. On the flipside there are people living in any one of the major cities that share a 5km radius with thousands of other people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    It was an arbitrary number and it was never claimed to be anything else.

    The idea was to minimise all travel but to recognise that people need to go places like the shops, pharmacy etc. Most people can do most of that in a 5km radius.

    Going on a jaunt halfway across the country was not necessary travel. What if everyone decided they were going to Barnard Castle?

    I think you’re also forgetting that Cummins didn’t just go to Barnard Castle, he did it while ill with Covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    I don't know where you were but there's loads of people in Ireland whose nearest shop was over 5km so as long as that was their intent there was no problem. In a lot of civil law countries like France people had to carry an attestment (a civil contract) that they were only going to their shop and would only be out for a certain amount of time.

    At least in Ireland there was no restriction on the time outside.

    If I had one criticism it would be the county shutdowns where like in Craigcullen in Laois they weren't in shut down yet across the bridge in Carlow town they were. That was a bit silly. Anyway there hasn't been a serious pandemic since 1918/19 where as Asian countries had been better prepared since outbreaks like H5N1 twenty years ago.

    It was interesting to read the reports of Irish backpackers in Vietnam who were pretty much locked up for weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I was in rural east galway for most of it and yes the nearest shop was more than 5km. Thank God for tesco home delivery.

    The county shutdowns made zero sense. As you said one county is locked down, then cross a bridge and they are not shutdown. Just like when there is a weather warning, one area gets a warning and the next townland over doesn't, and then the weather system moves from it's forecasted location.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I think you’re also forgetting that Cummins didn’t just go to Barnard Castle, he did it while ill with Covid.

    I am forgetting that, but it was 5 years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    I don't know where you were but there was a yoke going around back then that people who's nearest shop was a Supervalu would end up bankrupted!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Yeah Supervalu is something of an ironic name.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭techman1


    That the Irish government has kept up the huge spending spree since covid, the size of the state sector as recently as 2018 was 60 billion but it has ballooned to 117 billion in the last budget by pascal donohue. That's also pascal donohue legacy he has increased the size of the state by nearly 100% but little reliefs for hard pressed tax payers. Covid gave them alot of cover to do this



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,570 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    That a lot of people are selfish and somewhat dim

    It was scary how fast everything can be 'shut down'

    Our so called 'leaders' didnt have a backbone and left NPHET in charge for most of it. Then when NPHET weren't getting there way they'd go on a solo mission. Remember the 'stuff like the projections meeting', the whole Antigen snake oil thing and one of the members publicity shamed a grieving sister for going to her brothers funeral ?

    My heart breaks for all those families who had to bury loved ones with only a handful allowed attend

    Feel they should of set up a separate economic commitee and more emphasis on mental health.

    RTE with the constant doom and gloom that was at times borderline childish. 'watch out Dr Tony's watching',the presenter apologising on air for not 'social distancing' in a photo

    The whole world shat the bed during this

    Let's make sure it doesn't happen ever again



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